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21-04-2016, 08:25 PM
RE: How to overcome stupidity?
(21-04-2016 08:18 PM)Banjo Wrote:  Who cares anyway? Whomever it was insulted us and left.

Probably Q.

Laugh out load This was my exact thought, that it was "Q"! Some dogs just can't stop from crawling back to their puke. Hobo
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21-04-2016, 08:30 PM
RE: How to overcome stupidity?
(21-04-2016 08:09 PM)ClydeLee Wrote:  
(21-04-2016 08:02 PM)Gilgamesh Wrote:  Can I ask you first if English is your first language? Not trying to be snarky.

Yes, but I frequently write and think out in passive voice which causes confusing wording a lot. Microsoft Word processors don't like my sentences.

But what he had said is someone like her should have been coming to him for advice....What makes one think that? especially about a subject one admittingly states to having known nothing about.

Edited my previous post. I went back and re-read the post in question. One would think I did what I accused you of. I apologise. You are correct.
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21-04-2016, 08:38 PM
 
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And that will be my final post. I will leave you all alone now. Thanks.
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21-04-2016, 08:44 PM
RE: How to overcome stupidity?
(21-04-2016 08:25 PM)Tampitump Wrote:  
(21-04-2016 08:00 PM)ClydeLee Wrote:  Well if he doesn't abandon the forum all together he could potentially answer what makes him conclude such thoughts.

The point I was making with that is that I put a lot of effort and devotion into trying to be smart. I study and read daily. I try to be the "intellectual type" whom people often seek the advice of and take seriously their opinion. The reality is, I am very slow and hard of learning. Even the people who are understood to be non-thinkers and non-intellectuals (the girl in this case) often school me on many matters and show much more understanding of complex (and simple) topics than I do. The reality I'm having to deal with is that I am just a miserable, and pathetically jealous person. I am a 25 year old unemployed virgin who lives with his parents. I have tried for years to put up the front that I am an intelligent person, often using big words and trying to put on airs to impress people. But I'm not fooling anyone. Dumb blonde cheerleaders are smarter than me. they demonstrate it all the time. I'm just a loser who is jealous and mad at the world and trying to act smart was a way to try and have something everyone else doesn't have so I could make myself feel important. It doesn't work. When you're not important, pretending to be important doesn't make you the slightest bit more important. It doesn't even make you seem that way. It just makes me look like the joke that I am. It makes me just want to pick up this fucking gun and paint a mural on my walls with my brains and blood. I genuinely hate myself and my life. I fucking HATE IT/ME!

Maybe that girl had a bunch of experience with transgender people in her life, maybe being a cheerleader even helped her out in that life experience to met them. I know it was just an example and more scenarios are surely in your mind bothering you, but there are more to these issues than this abstract intelligence.

Intelligence isn't as firm status of something you obtain. You can have different types of mental skills at various areas. Even if you do have what can be called a jealous view of wanting to be intelligent in comparison to others, but it may or may not satisfy what makes you want to judge yourself in manners. You may want to feel important, but who do you want to feel important too, these are questions and physchological studying or times may be a good focus for you to think about.

A lot of these issues people go through, I went though I was not at all what I could count as intelligent in the least at the age of highschool into early college. It took finding interest in how to find elements of thought and subjects that really caused me to be able to work out the ideas outside of just studying them, but being able to relate them actively across ideas.

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21-04-2016, 08:47 PM
RE: How to overcome stupidity?
(21-04-2016 08:38 PM)Tampitump Wrote:  And that will be my final post. I will leave you all alone now. Thanks.

Lurk for awhile and see how the denouement/postmortem unfolds! Drinking Beverage
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21-04-2016, 09:09 PM
RE: How to overcome stupidity?
(21-04-2016 08:25 PM)Tampitump Wrote:  
(21-04-2016 08:00 PM)ClydeLee Wrote:  Well if he doesn't abandon the forum all together he could potentially answer what makes him conclude such thoughts.

The point I was making with that is that I put a lot of effort and devotion into trying to be smart. I study and read daily. I try to be the "intellectual type" whom people often seek the advice of and take seriously their opinion. The reality is, I am very slow and hard of learning. Even the people who are understood to be non-thinkers and non-intellectuals (the girl in this case) often school me on many matters and show much more understanding of complex (and simple) topics than I do. The reality I'm having to deal with is that I am just a miserable, and pathetically jealous person. I am a 25 year old unemployed virgin who lives with his parents. I have tried for years to put up the front that I am an intelligent person, often using big words and trying to put on airs to impress people. But I'm not fooling anyone. Dumb blonde cheerleaders are smarter than me. they demonstrate it all the time. I'm just a loser who is jealous and mad at the world and trying to act smart was a way to try and have something everyone else doesn't have so I could make myself feel important. It doesn't work. When you're not important, pretending to be important doesn't make you the slightest bit more important. It doesn't even make you seem that way. It just makes me look like the joke that I am. It makes me just want to pick up this fucking gun and paint a mural on my walls with my brains and blood. I genuinely hate myself and my life. I fucking HATE IT/ME!

From this post, it sounds like you care too much about what society deems is important/succesful. Living with your parents, being unemployed, being a virgin: none of these things are moral wrongs, so why care about them? Because society will call you a loser for it? They don't think those things are 'bad' because of any moral, either. They're just conformist fucks who shame those who aren't.

As for your intelligence; maybe you are an idiot. But nobody, barring people with certain learning disabilities, can't gain knowledge. I've observed that intelligence, at least societies academic intelligence, is largely achieved through determination, rather than any natural affinity for it. That is, average people, by way of going through the relevant motions, get a title like 'scientist.' And then people (people like you?) glorify them as sages who's wisdom cannot be touched upon by mere commonfolk.

You need to define for yourself what it is to be an intelligent human. If it happens to coincide with academia's definition of intelligence, then you need to view that type of intelligece as a sort of payment for completing manual labor job - the job being school. Nobody can't do it. You just have to show up and do what your employer tells you.

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21-04-2016, 09:18 PM
RE: How to overcome stupidity?
(21-04-2016 08:25 PM)Tampitump Wrote:  
(21-04-2016 08:00 PM)ClydeLee Wrote:  Well if he doesn't abandon the forum all together he could potentially answer what makes him conclude such thoughts.

The point I was making with that is that I put a lot of effort and devotion into trying to be smart. I study and read daily. I try to be the "intellectual type" whom people often seek the advice of and take seriously their opinion. The reality is, I am very slow and hard of learning. Even the people who are understood to be non-thinkers and non-intellectuals (the girl in this case) often school me on many matters and show much more understanding of complex (and simple) topics than I do. The reality I'm having to deal with is that I am just a miserable, and pathetically jealous person. I am a 25 year old unemployed virgin who lives with his parents. I have tried for years to put up the front that I am an intelligent person, often using big words and trying to put on airs to impress people. But I'm not fooling anyone. Dumb blonde cheerleaders are smarter than me. they demonstrate it all the time. I'm just a loser who is jealous and mad at the world and trying to act smart was a way to try and have something everyone else doesn't have so I could make myself feel important. It doesn't work. When you're not important, pretending to be important doesn't make you the slightest bit more important. It doesn't even make you seem that way. It just makes me look like the joke that I am. It makes me just want to pick up this fucking gun and paint a mural on my walls with my brains and blood. I genuinely hate myself and my life. I fucking HATE IT/ME!

i struggle in the same way. i cant math for shit. i was once made fun of by a customer because i couldnt subract 65 cents from a dollar in my head. i was so flustered i gave her the dollar back because i even messed up my computer trying to work it out. i dont have big words and im not as educated as i would like to be. but everyone has their struggle. if you load up on some sarcasm.. it comes out much better. dont be so hard on yourself. i stumble and stutter on words constantly.
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21-04-2016, 09:54 PM
RE: How to overcome stupidity?
(21-04-2016 09:18 PM)Jewelarcher Wrote:  
(21-04-2016 08:25 PM)Tampitump Wrote:  The point I was making with that is that I put a lot of effort and devotion into trying to be smart. I study and read daily. I try to be the "intellectual type" whom people often seek the advice of and take seriously their opinion. The reality is, I am very slow and hard of learning. Even the people who are understood to be non-thinkers and non-intellectuals (the girl in this case) often school me on many matters and show much more understanding of complex (and simple) topics than I do. The reality I'm having to deal with is that I am just a miserable, and pathetically jealous person. I am a 25 year old unemployed virgin who lives with his parents. I have tried for years to put up the front that I am an intelligent person, often using big words and trying to put on airs to impress people. But I'm not fooling anyone. Dumb blonde cheerleaders are smarter than me. they demonstrate it all the time. I'm just a loser who is jealous and mad at the world and trying to act smart was a way to try and have something everyone else doesn't have so I could make myself feel important. It doesn't work. When you're not important, pretending to be important doesn't make you the slightest bit more important. It doesn't even make you seem that way. It just makes me look like the joke that I am. It makes me just want to pick up this fucking gun and paint a mural on my walls with my brains and blood. I genuinely hate myself and my life. I fucking HATE IT/ME!

i struggle in the same way. i cant math for shit. i was once made fun of by a customer because i couldnt subract 65 cents from a dollar in my head. i was so flustered i gave her the dollar back because i even messed up my computer trying to work it out. i dont have big words and im not as educated as i would like to be. but everyone has their struggle. if you load up on some sarcasm.. it comes out much better. dont be so hard on yourself. i stumble and stutter on words constantly.

As long as you work on what you perceive as a shortcoming, more power to you. As for the OP, he (?) is more interested in proving intellectual superiority to some alleged peers, and failing. Example- I am plenty smart, I have a B Sc in physics, but I know a SHIT ton of people who are WAY smarter than me. Sad
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21-04-2016, 10:01 PM
 
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My entire life has been this way. I have always struggled for acceptance. there have been times when I have done things which I thought were brilliant and deserving of their fair share of recognition but no one ever seemed to notice or acknowledge any of it. Meanwhile my siblings were deriving praise and recognition for every move they made. My siblings were very talented and smart. My sister was an all-state athlete who played softball in college. My brother was also an athlete and both of them were great students. They both have advanced degrees from top notch universities. I have spent years trying to figure out what I'm good at and nothing really ever seemed to stick. I only passed high school because a couple of teachers felt sorry for me and passed me with a 69.9. I was terrible in college as well.

For the past several years I have wanted to "redeem" myself, if you will, and try to get myself into a top university. I converted from Christianity to atheism after metting a couple of atheists at work and having an argument with them. They upset me so much that I went home and typed "atheist" into the search bar on youtube. Behold, a bunch of Atheist Experience videos came up and I got to enjoy Matt Dillahunty tell me all about the wonders of free-thought and skepticism. It converted me quite quickly and pretty soon the pursuit for knowledge and education became the most important thing in my life. But I was stuck with all this baggage from the past. My personality was still envious and jealous. I still had a complex about being inferior and unimportant. Today, I don't think this is a complex, but a reality. I believe it is a reality which I have brought upon myself by virtue of the type of person I am. I'm just not a very good person.

I decided just this past semester to go back to college to try and pursue an education. I was forced to go with a lame-ass community college because there's no way a legitimate college would accept me with my atrocious past grades. I'm almost done with my first semester and I can honestly say that I am not any better or brighter of a student now than I was back then. Even when I actually care about school and apply myself I still cannot get good grades. I'm struggling big time in my classes and these are almost all remedial classes.

I reject the idea that stupid people can become smarter. You cannot create more brain. You cannot get more out of something when it is not there. I have wanted for the past few years to go to a top research university and get a superb education, but I know that goal will never happen. I thought maybe going to community college and doing very well would make it so I could transfer to a top school to complete my bachelor's degree. I am wasting my time.

I know I have said it before, but I absolutely hate life. I hate it. There is nothing good, fun, or enjoyable to me in life at all. I do not enjoy anything life has to offer. I do not enjoy other people, games, music, movies, food, drugs, alcohol, conversation, or any other activity. I am numb to deriving enjoyment out of life. I am a miserable person with strange problems who does not fit in with the world. You can have absolutely no clue how much I just want to kill myself, and to so in such a way that I will suffer in the process. There is nothing to like about me. I do not, and can not, contribute to the world in positive ways. I really do believe that my death would be a cause for celebration. I also don't think there would be much cause for despair or sorrow in the minds of the people I know. I think there is a reason people like me have suicidal thoughts. I believe they signify the necessity for us to go through with it. Because vital, worthy, desirable people have confidence and do not experience natural tendencies to kill themselves. I would argue that suicidal depression could be seen as a mechanism of natural selection to get rid of inferior minds. Inferior-minded people get rightfully ostracized by their society, they rightfully feel depressed and suicidal, they commit suicide, natural selection has done its job.

I may sound bat shit crazy to some of you. I am doing my best to be honest with you on my true thoughts.
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21-04-2016, 10:10 PM
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