How would you convince an Alien, YAHWEH exists ?
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29-01-2014, 11:29 PM
How would you convince an Alien, YAHWEH exists ?
Really a question for the Theists here if there are any left.
All the Atheists must put on their theists hats for this one, its convince this alien entity our most infamous deity is real or our planet gets destroyed.

Assume its a rational humanoid alien entity with perfect grasp of our languages and their tech level/science knowledge is comparable to ours.

Theism is to believe what other people claim, Atheism is to ask "why should I".
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29-01-2014, 11:32 PM
RE: How would you convince an Alien, YAHWEH exists ?
In the usual manner - torture. Evil_monster

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29-01-2014, 11:32 PM
RE: How would you convince an Alien, YAHWEH exists ?
Like hitler said repeat it 1000 times and people will believe it. Worked on humans. Could work on aliens.
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30-01-2014, 12:22 AM
RE: How would you convince an Alien, YAHWEH exists ?
I'd say, "A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away an all powerful being, who created everything, you too evidently, created a planet so far away you can't even see it from this part of the universe. But even if you could, he picked a spot on that planet so small that you'd have now clue where to look, and he told only a handful of people in that tiny spot on that tiny planet in the whole of the universe what he had done, and expected that to be enough to spread the word. However he was utterly unconcerned with you, a few billion light years away, considering he was also utterly unconcerned with everyone else on the planet who live only a few hundred, or thousands of miles away. But there is this place called Hell that you will burn if you don't believe this comparatively unadvanced society did not simply make this all up. But can you really take that chance of being wrong. Remember, there's Hell, and that would suck if you were wrong about that. Can you really take the chance of being wrong? Might as well believe...oh, and there's Jesus too. You have to believe that as well."

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30-01-2014, 12:26 AM
RE: How would you convince an Alien, YAHWEH exists ?
"Only man is a narcissistic enough species to think that a highly evolved alien life force would travel across billions and billions of light-years—a group of aliens so intelligent, so insouciant, so utterly above it all, they feel no need whatsoever to equip their spacecraft with windows so that they can gaze out on all that celestial beauty—but then immediately upon landing, their first impulse is to get in some hick's ass with a flashlight."

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30-01-2014, 12:29 AM
RE: How would you convince an Alien, YAHWEH exists ?
All I can think of is find out its desires and promise an imaginary realm with never ending supply of it, If only they take it on faith. Eternal torture threats are plan b.

Cant see a contradictory old book will be puresasive .

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30-01-2014, 02:57 AM
RE: How would you convince an Alien, YAHWEH exists ?
(29-01-2014 11:29 PM)sporehux Wrote:  Really a question for the Theists here if there are any left.
All the Atheists must put on their theists hats for this one, its convince this alien entity our most infamous deity is real or our planet gets destroyed.

Assume its a rational humanoid alien entity with perfect grasp of our languages and their tech level/science knowledge is comparable to ours.

It can't be done. You'd be using reason and logic to explain something that is void of reason and logic. Hmm, come to think of it that's why massive assumptions need to be made when dealing with religion.

There's a lot you simply have to take for granted in order for the system to work. Now an alien may have little patience for bullshit. Earth be gone.

8000 years before Jesus, the Egyptian god Horus said, "I am the way, the truth, the life."
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30-01-2014, 09:25 AM
RE: How would you convince an Alien, YAHWEH exists ?
(29-01-2014 11:29 PM)sporehux Wrote:  Really a question for the Theists here if there are any left.
All the Atheists must put on their theists hats for this one, its convince this alien entity our most infamous deity is real or our planet gets destroyed.

Assume its a rational humanoid alien entity with perfect grasp of our languages and their tech level/science knowledge is comparable to ours.

It's simple, sadly:

If we are hypothesizing a fictitious race, they will simply assume that YHWH did reveal himself to them. If you say they didn't, they'll fault you for making that assumption.

If we actually did find an alien race, and it had no obvious Jeudeo Christian analogue, they'd assume God was communicating to them however he saw fit. They would have to be blatantly atheist for that assumption not to work with them. I know plenty of Christians who feel that other religions on this world are explained by God talking to people in a different way. It's pretty hard to prove that level of non-falsifiability wrong.
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30-01-2014, 10:53 AM
RE: How would you convince an Alien, YAHWEH exists ?
What would be ironic is if these aliens came all this way to proselytize and bring the Good Word of their creator to us in the same way the Spanish brought the good word to the Incas or the English to the American Indians. Yes

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30-01-2014, 12:08 PM
RE: How would you convince an Alien, YAHWEH exists ?
(30-01-2014 10:53 AM)Full Circle Wrote:  What would be ironic is if these aliens came all this way to proselytize and bring the Good Word of their creator to us in the same way the Spanish brought the good word to the Incas or the English to the American Indians. Yes

It'd be great. Bonus points if their technology could replicate any of the miracles performed by Jesus, and they told us Jesus was fake.

Of course, then we'd just be trading one religion for another.
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