How would your justify procreation in absence of God?
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13-10-2014, 06:33 AM
RE: How would your justify procreation in absence of God?
(13-10-2014 03:27 AM)Rahn127 Wrote:  My needs and wants are many.
Nobody gives a fuck about your needs and wants. We are talking about your children. It's your responsibility
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13-10-2014, 06:33 AM
RE: How would your justify procreation in absence of God?
Recently the forum was split over how we treat most theists. Some said that, as a whole, we were too aggressive, didn't give them a chance to discuss their points of view and so on. I stopped to think, maybe those folks were right, maybe we have become too quick to judge, could our knee-jerk reactions be over the top, unjustified even...

Then I read this OP and think to myself, fuck no.

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13-10-2014, 06:38 AM
RE: How would your justify procreation in absence of God?
(13-10-2014 12:28 AM)morondog Wrote:  Seeing as we've been doing it for billions of years it seems to work.
It didn't work for 80-100 billion people. They all died.
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13-10-2014, 06:39 AM
RE: How would your justify procreation in absence of God?
(13-10-2014 06:33 AM)dimaniac Wrote:  
(13-10-2014 03:27 AM)Rahn127 Wrote:  My needs and wants are many.
Nobody gives a fuck about your needs and wants. We are talking about your children. It's your responsibility

And nobody really gives a fuck about your poorly conceived questions. Drinking Beverage

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13-10-2014, 06:41 AM
RE: How would your justify procreation in absence of God?
(13-10-2014 06:38 AM)dimaniac Wrote:  
(13-10-2014 12:28 AM)morondog Wrote:  Seeing as we've been doing it for billions of years it seems to work.
It didn't work for 80-100 billion people. They all died.

People continue to die, so I guess it is still not working.

Your original questions is stupid. Living things reproduce to continue the species. Mating is hard wired into us, for the most part. All the emotional stuff is what makes it possible for us to live as social groups and not solidary beings coming together just to mate.
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13-10-2014, 06:42 AM
RE: How would your justify procreation in absence of God?
(13-10-2014 06:33 AM)dimaniac Wrote:  
(13-10-2014 03:27 AM)Rahn127 Wrote:  My needs and wants are many.
Nobody gives a fuck about your needs and wants. We are talking about your children. It's your responsibility

I think you could use some help expressing yourself. I think you mean:
How can you justify having children when....
well... that last bit is lost to me.

Let's try this as a syllogism:
1. Let's assume for the sake of argument that there is no god
2. It is irresponsible to have children if there is no god
3. Therefore, it is irresponsible to have children.

How do you justify point (2)? Why do you think it is irresponsible to have children if there is no god... or would you express yourself with different words?

Ahh... I think I get it. You are asking:
How can we justify having children that will one day die? Wouldn't it be better to have no children than children that die?

Is that what you're trying to ask here?

Give me your argument in the form of a published paper, and then we can start to talk.
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13-10-2014, 06:43 AM
RE: How would your justify procreation in absence of God?
(13-10-2014 06:38 AM)dimaniac Wrote:  
(13-10-2014 12:28 AM)morondog Wrote:  Seeing as we've been doing it for billions of years it seems to work.
It didn't work for 80-100 billion people. They all died.

What does that even mean? Facepalm

You have to be trolling 'cause I can't believe anyone who can tie their shoelaces and allowed to walk around in public can be this obtuse and dense.

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13-10-2014, 06:47 AM
RE: How would your justify procreation in absence of God?
(13-10-2014 06:38 AM)dimaniac Wrote:  
(13-10-2014 12:28 AM)morondog Wrote:  Seeing as we've been doing it for billions of years it seems to work.
It didn't work for 80-100 billion people. They all died.

So your idiot god has no power then.

The majority of fertilized human eggs spontaneously abort. That makes your god an abortionist. In fact the WORST abortionist, now doesn't it.

Evolution produced the way life starts and works.
The gods had nothing to do with it.

There is no "creation" nor "procreation". What there is, is "life" which evolved, and as anyone whoever took High School Biology knows, there is no absolute boundary between life and non-life, (viruses are not considered "alive").
Please head for you local mall. They may have a clue for sale there.

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13-10-2014, 06:56 AM
RE: How would your justify procreation in absence of God?
Because life can be very fulfilling if you don't teach children myths about a tyrant monster deity that wants slavish worship and abject slavery for the entire human race and requires this horrific slavery for an eternity.

Gods derive their power from post-hoc rationalizations. -The Inquisition

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13-10-2014, 07:00 AM
RE: How would your justify procreation in absence of God?
(13-10-2014 06:38 AM)dimaniac Wrote:  
(13-10-2014 12:28 AM)morondog Wrote:  Seeing as we've been doing it for billions of years it seems to work.
It didn't work for 80-100 billion people. They all died.

I think your population estimates are way off Drinking Beverage

Anyway, it works as far as continuing the species goes. What's your definition of work? If you want eternal life I'm afraid you're fucked, 'cos it don't exist Smile have a nice day. And don't fuck anyone.

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(06-02-2014 03:47 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  And I'm giving myself a conclusion again from all the facepalming.
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