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05-04-2012, 01:36 PM
Human Worth
(Thank you, Ghost, for inspiring this thread. I don't agree with you but I do respect your opinion.)

So after saying my piece in that crazy pedophile thread,
and after saying my piece in the sociopath thread,
and after being accused by Ghost of what I can only describe as human bigotry,
I want to open up a topic on Human Value/Human Worth.

I berated a christian for referring to one of my posts as "stupid".
My response to christian was "You're a christian. Go fuck yourself."
The response from Ghost included this line and I can't seem to stop pondering it:


"They are human beings first and foremost and deserve to be treated as such, regardless of how vile you might think their position is."



My question is: Is this true?
My assumption is that by "treated as such", he means "treated with dignity".
Is all human life worth something? Are some human lives worth nothing?
Do all human beings have some intrinsic value, irrespective of their position?
If yes, does this apply to pedophiles? How about sociopaths?
What about christians or muslims? Is "religious bigotry" acceptable?

Is any form of bigotry acceptable?

Bigotry against ideas? Ideologies? The practitioners of those ideologies?
When diversity meets political correctness, does it/can it lean toward the ridiculous?
In other words, can tall people be critical of what a short person thinks?
Can a brown-eyed person be critical of what a blue-eyed person thinks?
Are all human ideas sacred and therefore beyond criticism? How about human feelings?

What are your feelings about Human Worth / Human Value?

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05-04-2012, 01:41 PM
RE: Human Worth
Numerous problems with this.

One is who decides.

The second big one is:

Discriminating against someone to the point of declaring them worthless is bigotry so if you were lumping bigots into the category of worthless you would be condemning the judges to the same fate.

Circle of pointless.

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05-04-2012, 01:48 PM
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So you're saying you're bigoted against this thread because you deem it worthless/pointless?

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05-04-2012, 02:01 PM
RE: Human Worth
Not at all. My deeming the thread pointless does not equate to worthless.
Nor am I bigoted against such useless drivel. I enjoy it more than the more serious topics here.

Otherwise I wouldn't have answered you.

Or I would have just said " you're an idiot" and then vanished into the night.

We don't know each other yet. Let's not make assumptions about one another so soon!

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05-04-2012, 02:08 PM
RE: Human Worth
For some, sarcasm is hard to understand, let alone identify...

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05-04-2012, 02:30 PM
RE: Human Worth
I love my Gwynnies! Big Grin

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05-04-2012, 02:43 PM
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(05-04-2012 02:08 PM)Quidsane Wrote:  For some, sarcasm is hard to understand, let alone identify...
And yet for some, seeing their sarcasm deflated is frustrating Tongue

Still an interesting op though...

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05-04-2012, 02:47 PM
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(05-04-2012 02:43 PM)Observer Wrote:  And yet for some, seeing their sarcasm deflated is frustrating Tongue

Touché, haha! Big Grin

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05-04-2012, 03:12 PM
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(05-04-2012 02:47 PM)Quidsane Wrote:  
(05-04-2012 02:43 PM)Observer Wrote:  And yet for some, seeing their sarcasm deflated is frustrating Tongue

Touché, haha! Big Grin
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05-04-2012, 04:05 PM
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I think all life is worth something.

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