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01-03-2014, 02:46 AM
RE: Humans are guilty of existing
(01-03-2014 02:39 AM)donotwant Wrote:  
Quote:Can a good God exist when "evil" exists in the world.
Good god can't exist in this world.

That is the conclusion of an argument you haven't made. Why should anyone believe it?
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01-03-2014, 02:46 AM
RE: Humans are guilty of existing
What is difference between design and create for you?
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01-03-2014, 02:59 AM
RE: Humans are guilty of existing
(01-03-2014 02:46 AM)donotwant Wrote:  What is difference between design and create for you?

Creation is the act of bringing something into existence. Design is the act of formulating a detailed plan of exactly how that something should be.

Suppose I create an evolution simulator. Within that simulator I select for locomotion. I run the simulator for hours on end. The result is a virtual creature which is very good a locomotion within the simulation.

I created the creature I wanted....one that is good at locomotion. However I did not design it to be good at locomotion. The details of the creature emerged.
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01-03-2014, 03:01 AM
RE: Humans are guilty of existing
All right in that case.
Did god create this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epidermolysis_bullosa
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01-03-2014, 03:09 AM
RE: Humans are guilty of existing
(01-03-2014 03:01 AM)donotwant Wrote:  All right in that case.
Did god create this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epidermolysis_bullosa

I have been pretty good about answering your questions. How about you answer mine?

Is death and pain intrinsically evil?
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01-03-2014, 03:11 AM
RE: Humans are guilty of existing
(01-03-2014 03:09 AM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  
(01-03-2014 03:01 AM)donotwant Wrote:  All right in that case.
Did god create this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epidermolysis_bullosa

I have been pretty good about answering your questions. How about you answer mine?

Is death and pain intrinsically evil?

Involuntary death and pain yes.
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01-03-2014, 03:31 AM
RE: Humans are guilty of existing
How can death be evil?
Death is a fact, evil is a human concept.
How can cancer be evil?
Sure it's a horrible way to die and that is why we humans are doing our damnedest to get rid of it but in itself it cannot be said to be evil.
Natural disasters aren't evil. Earthquakes are caused by movements of the tectonic plates - there is no person, evil or otherwise, behind it.
Starving a child because of religious convictions (it just happened in the UK) is my idea of evil but it may not be someone else's.
I do not accept that there is a god and the fact that there are evil people has nothing to do with that.
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01-03-2014, 04:03 AM
RE: Humans are guilty of existing
(01-03-2014 03:31 AM)englishrose Wrote:  How can death be evil?
Death is a fact, evil is a human concept.
How can cancer be evil?
Sure it's a horrible way to die and that is why we humans are doing our damnedest to get rid of it but in itself it cannot be said to be evil.
Natural disasters aren't evil. Earthquakes are caused by movements of the tectonic plates - there is no person, evil or otherwise, behind it.
Starving a child because of religious convictions (it just happened in the UK) is my idea of evil but it may not be someone else's.
I do not accept that there is a god and the fact that there are evil people has nothing to do with that.

The question here is that is god good and or evil if he exists.
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01-03-2014, 04:08 AM
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That is a rhetorical question and no good asking me as I do not accept that he exists.
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01-03-2014, 04:10 AM
RE: Humans are guilty of existing
Still an important one as long as people take god idea seriously.
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