I Don't Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist
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01-06-2014, 02:53 PM
RE: I Don't Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist
(01-06-2014 02:05 PM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  
(01-06-2014 01:30 PM)Mathilda Wrote:  What can a thing be but matter with energy flowing through it?

Life is a temporally persistent pattern. After all each cell in our body gets replaced. The same for a river. The water is constantly flowing through it, the shape changes over time but it's still a river. You see a lenticular cloud above a hill ridge, the water molecules are being replaced but it's the same cloud.


The only persistent thing is the pattern.

i see patterns in nature, therefore the only things that exist are those that can be seen is a non-sequitur.

Strawman.

Tell me what else a thing can be except a temporally persistent pattern of matter and energy.
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01-06-2014, 02:54 PM
RE: I Don't Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist
(01-06-2014 02:41 PM)War Horse Wrote:  
(01-06-2014 02:35 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  Back in the day he'd get slipped some PCP and we'd all go Lizard King together and he'd no longer be confused. Then we see who we really are. ... Ah, the good old days.

Got that right. And thats the difference between living and surviving in the real world as opposed to his fantasy world. The dude would be curled up in a corner by now, wantin his mommy. Wink

He ain't gonna be no Komodo Dragon, or even a Bearded Dragon, but he could be a gecko. Give him a gecko Paleo.

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01-06-2014, 02:55 PM
RE: I Don't Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist
(01-06-2014 02:15 PM)War Horse Wrote:  
(01-06-2014 02:05 PM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  i see patterns in nature, therefore the only things that exist are those that can be seen is a non-sequitur.



Huh ? I swear I'm getting dumber by reading this shit...... what the fuck does that above statement by Germy Wanker mean Gasp

He's strawmanning my argument, deliberately pretending that I said something completely different.
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01-06-2014, 03:03 PM
RE: I Don't Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist
(01-06-2014 02:53 PM)Mathilda Wrote:  
(01-06-2014 02:05 PM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  i see patterns in nature, therefore the only things that exist are those that can be seen is a non-sequitur.

Strawman.

Tell me what else a thing can be except a temporally persistent pattern of matter and energy.

research abstract objects.
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01-06-2014, 03:05 PM
RE: I Don't Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist
(01-06-2014 03:03 PM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  
(01-06-2014 02:53 PM)Mathilda Wrote:  Strawman.

Tell me what else a thing can be except a temporally persistent pattern of matter and energy.

research abstract objects.

Which don't exist except as a concept. Concepts require matter and energy in the form of a brain and electrical impulses.
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01-06-2014, 03:08 PM
RE: I Don't Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist
(01-06-2014 03:03 PM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  
(01-06-2014 02:53 PM)Mathilda Wrote:  Strawman.

Tell me what else a thing can be except a temporally persistent pattern of matter and energy.

research abstract objects.

You mean like a Moebius strip or a Klein bottle or free will?

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01-06-2014, 03:10 PM
RE: I Don't Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist
(01-06-2014 03:05 PM)Mathilda Wrote:  
(01-06-2014 03:03 PM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  research abstract objects.

Which don't exist except as a concept. Concepts require matter and energy in the form of a brain and electrical impulses.

that is your view. many mathematicians would disagree. i disagree as well. i believe in God and God is immaterial. God is Spirit.
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01-06-2014, 03:11 PM
RE: I Don't Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist
(01-06-2014 03:10 PM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  
(01-06-2014 03:05 PM)Mathilda Wrote:  Which don't exist except as a concept. Concepts require matter and energy in the form of a brain and electrical impulses.

that is your view. many mathematicians would disagree. i disagree as well. i believe in God and God is immaterial. God is Spirit.

Excellent!

Maybe you can tell me then what else a thing can be except a temporally persistent pattern of matter and energy?

P.S God does not exist.
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01-06-2014, 03:13 PM (This post was last modified: 01-06-2014 03:21 PM by GirlyMan.)
RE: I Don't Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist
(01-06-2014 03:10 PM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  
(01-06-2014 03:05 PM)Mathilda Wrote:  Which don't exist except as a concept. Concepts require matter and energy in the form of a brain and electrical impulses.

that is your view. many mathematicians would disagree. i disagree as well. i believe in God and God is immaterial. God is Spirit.

I thought you were a Christian, no? Jesus is the physical manifestation of The Word realized materially, no?

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01-06-2014, 03:20 PM
I Don't Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist
(01-06-2014 01:36 PM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  
(01-06-2014 01:20 PM)War Horse Wrote:  Pffft , yeah like your god...... Idiot ! walked right into that one, didnt ya. Wink

yea i didnt think you had anything other than this.

So you admit you have nothing.

You're pathetic.

β€œIt is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts.”
― Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, Sherlock Holmes
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