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01-06-2014, 04:50 PM
RE: I Don't Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist
(01-06-2014 04:47 PM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  Why did you leave out the most critical portion of the wikipedia definition of special pleading?


Probably because I am programming at the same time as debating you. If you think I have left out something critically important then just quote it and state your objection rather than try to create an impression. This is typical of you and it is why people see you as intellectually dishonest.
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01-06-2014, 04:53 PM
I Don't Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist
(01-06-2014 04:49 PM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  
(01-06-2014 04:43 PM)Mathilda Wrote:  How can God affect the physical world without the use of energy which would make him subject to entropy?

He is God. I do not know how. That is where faith comes in. There are many things I cannot answer. I just bow in worship and say: "O Lord thou knowest!"

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01-06-2014, 04:53 PM
RE: I Don't Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist
(01-06-2014 04:50 PM)rampant.a.i. Wrote:  
(01-06-2014 04:49 PM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  He is God. I do not know how. That is where faith comes in. There are many things I cannot answer. I just bow in worship and say: "O Lord thou knowest!"

Right, because that makes you feel better than "I don't know, let's use science to find out."

You know what "faith" is?

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nice, but I disagree. I think you have strawmanned faith
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01-06-2014, 04:54 PM
RE: I Don't Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist
(01-06-2014 04:53 PM)rampant.a.i. Wrote:  
(01-06-2014 04:49 PM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  He is God. I do not know how. That is where faith comes in. There are many things I cannot answer. I just bow in worship and say: "O Lord thou knowest!"

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you cared enough to take the time to post the gif.
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01-06-2014, 04:56 PM
RE: I Don't Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist
(01-06-2014 04:50 PM)Mathilda Wrote:  
(01-06-2014 04:47 PM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  Why did you leave out the most critical portion of the wikipedia definition of special pleading?


Probably because I am programming at the same time as debating you. If you think I have left out something critically important then just quote it and state your objection rather than try to create an impression. This is typical of you and it is why people see you as intellectually dishonest.

*without justifying the exception.*


God is the exception because God is Spirit, He is not a material being. He is immaterial.

The Kalam is one of my evidences for this assertion. The Bible is another.
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01-06-2014, 04:56 PM (This post was last modified: 01-06-2014 05:00 PM by GirlyMan.)
RE: I Don't Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist
Because it's time. No ad hominehomo.




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01-06-2014, 04:56 PM
I Don't Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist
(01-06-2014 04:53 PM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  
(01-06-2014 04:50 PM)rampant.a.i. Wrote:  Right, because that makes you feel better than "I don't know, let's use science to find out."

You know what "faith" is?

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nice, but I disagree. I think you have strawmanned faith

Define religious faith then.

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01-06-2014, 04:57 PM
RE: I Don't Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist
Jeremy.....how do you know god is exists and how is it possible for it to exist without beginning to exist?

And what is the evidence that you said I've been given?

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01-06-2014, 04:58 PM
I Don't Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist
(01-06-2014 04:56 PM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  
(01-06-2014 04:50 PM)Mathilda Wrote:  Probably because I am programming at the same time as debating you. If you think I have left out something critically important then just quote it and state your objection rather than try to create an impression. This is typical of you and it is why people see you as intellectually dishonest.

*without justifying the exception.*


God is the exception because God is Spirit, He is not a material being. He is immaterial.

The Kalam is one of my evidences for this assertion. The Bible is another.

You've been shown why the Kalam is a failed argument repeatedly.

As far as the bible, which is factually inaccurate and composed by a set of books voted in by human committee
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01-06-2014, 05:00 PM
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(01-06-2014 04:57 PM)LostandInsecure Wrote:  Jeremy.....how do you know god is exists and how is it possible for it to exist without beginning to exist?

And what is the evidence that you said I've been given?

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