I am Believer - Challenge My Beliefs
Post Reply
 
Thread Rating:
  • 0 Votes - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
11-01-2015, 01:04 AM
RE: I am Believer - Challenge My Beliefs
(11-01-2015 12:51 AM)houseofcantor Wrote:  StrongHouse, didn't they ban you at AF proselytizing, spammy douchebaggery, excessive use of scripture, and cruelty to animals, to wit, hamsters in the butt?

You've got that hyper-affect pareidolia going on; you better get that checked out before the stains in your ceiling tiles convince you to assassinate the French foreign minister.

Banning came when my argument was seen as airtight. I expect it will happen here as well. Truth is a sWord.

Question is, can you take it? My intent is from a heart of love. What have I said that is off topic, Ad Hominem or shows my desire to convert? Nothing. As a fact, the only thing I seek to show is that there is a higher truth than Christians know. Yahweh must be overcome. Jesus did it. By this, there are other scriptures outside the Bible to guide us above the former.

No conversion necessary. Just know thyself.
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
11-01-2015, 01:06 AM (This post was last modified: 11-01-2015 01:14 AM by AlephBet.)
RE: I am Believer - Challenge My Beliefs
(11-01-2015 12:55 AM)pablo Wrote:  Challenge your beliefs? Why?
What possible beneficial outcome could I hope for?
Your inane ramblings suggest you could use a heavy dose of psychotherapy, and I could have a more productive conversation with my dog.
Run along now little fella.
Drinking Beverage

Ad Hominem in an Atheist forum is a sure sign truth cannot be overcome any other way. Stick to the subject and avoid stepping on the object. Truth must be expressed with evidence that can be observed. I have shown it in spades. Plenty more to come.
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
11-01-2015, 01:07 AM
RE: I am Believer - Challenge My Beliefs
(11-01-2015 01:06 AM)AlephBet Wrote:  
(11-01-2015 12:55 AM)pablo Wrote:  Challenge your beliefs? Why?
What possible beneficial outcome could I hope for?
Your inane ramblings suggest you could use a heavy dose of psychotherapy, and I could have a more productive conversation with my dog.
Run along now little fella.
Drinking Beverage

Ad Hominem in an Atheist forum is a sure sign truth cannot be overcome any other way. Stick to the subject and avoid stepping on the object. Truth must be expressed with evidence that can be observed. I have show it in spades.

Oh shut up and go away.

And Mr. Master of words - check your spelling.

See here they are the bruises some were self-inflicted and some showed up along the way. - JF

We're all mad here. The Cheshire Cat
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
11-01-2015, 01:12 AM
RE: I am Believer - Challenge My Beliefs
(11-01-2015 01:07 AM)Anjele Wrote:  
(11-01-2015 01:06 AM)AlephBet Wrote:  Ad Hominem in an Atheist forum is a sure sign truth cannot be overcome any other way. Stick to the subject and avoid stepping on the object. Truth must be expressed with evidence that can be observed. I have show it in spades.

Oh shut up and go away.

And Mr. Master of words - check your spelling.

Which word are you referring to? Ad Hominem is not a good tool for debate. Try using something from the subject.
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
11-01-2015, 01:13 AM
RE: I am Believer - Challenge My Beliefs
(11-01-2015 01:12 AM)AlephBet Wrote:  
(11-01-2015 01:07 AM)Anjele Wrote:  Oh shut up and go away.

And Mr. Master of words - check your spelling.

Which word are you referring to? Ad Hominem is not a good tool for debate. Try using something from the subject.

Read what I bolded.

See here they are the bruises some were self-inflicted and some showed up along the way. - JF

We're all mad here. The Cheshire Cat
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
11-01-2015, 01:14 AM
RE: I am Believer - Challenge My Beliefs
(10-01-2015 11:20 PM)AlephBet Wrote:  
(10-01-2015 11:03 PM)Miss Suzanne Wrote:  Don't know if it's really belief challenging, but I have a few questions. Do you believe there is one and only one correct branch of Christianity? If there is, does that mean that believers of other Christian branches go to hell despite being good, faithful, and loyal to god? Why would a god allow so many variations (some that are slight variations) if this is the case? If they still go to heaven despite not believing in the exact doctrine, why does it matter what branch of Christianity is "right" or "wrong"? I suppose the last few questions rely on you saying, "yes," though you can explain what you think other Christians that have one set faith would say if you say, "no" (and if you want to, of course).

Also, what the hell is your avatar? I keep staring at it trying to figure it out. It's a sideways G with a bulls head under a old guy's eye? What, is god talented at bull's eyes or are you an old guy with a tattoo on his face or...?

Right questions, so I'll answer. Christian belief is in error. If you don't overcome Yahweh / Satan, you cannot get to the Father / hidden God. Part of faith is overcoming the mark of the beast. Who is the beast? Christianity is made for the sick. It is a means to an end, allowing the process to overcome selfishness.

Revelation 13

18 This calls for wisdom. Let the person who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man.[e] That number is 666.

The beast is ultimately selfishness. When the Son of God made his own version of creation in Genesis 2, it was founded on Carbon based life. Carbon has 6 protons, 6 neutrons and 6 electrons. The mark of mankind is the beast. We overcome the beast by rising above the image we occupy. The material world is not our first estate. As I stated earlier, we are Eve (bride) divided from Adam (Groom). Yahweh is the ruling mind of Adam throughout scriptures. The beast to overcome is Yahweh. By this, you deny and silence Satan (conscience). Until that point, trials and fire.

Why did the temple crumble? Why did Jesus / Yahweh hang on a cross? I said I was a believer. I said nothing of being a Christian. If you don't get past the Son, you won't find the Father. The Son overcame. By this, the Son is showing the way to roll the stone away from the temple of Yahweh and back to the will of the Father of Love and Spirit of God.

2 Timothy 3

3 But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. 2 People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3 without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, 4 treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God— 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with such people.

18 markers. 6+6+6. He says, "Mark THIS!"

If you fail to overcome selfishness / self-righteousness, you are simply shedding your own blood.

Your proof is the truth of the argument. Is God right by demanding this of his Son? Now that you know you are the Son, just as much as Yahweh, you are without excuse. Note the markers. Note your conscience (Satan) by comparison.

No room to blame God. He rested in Genesis 2. The rest is all you, us, we.

(didn't realize there were right and wrong ways to question your beliefs other than maybe something like, "Pepsi or Coke," which doesn't really address your beliefs but okay)
Alrighty, I'll admit that I was assuming you were Christian since "Spirit of God" seems like a fairly Christian thing to say. So,is there a way you classify your set of beliefs? Or is it all your own? And does that mean that Christianity can't be a vital tool in your opinion? Like is a person unable to reach this conclusion through attending a church and realizing some of the things you said when their priest/bishop/what-have-you says something different? If they can, doesn't Christianity serve at least a little purpose?

Just because I've never heard anyone (in my day to day life or on the internet) mention it before, where did you get
Quote: When the Son of God made his own version of creation in Genesis 2, it was founded on Carbon based life. Carbon has 6 protons, 6 neutrons and 6 electrons. The mark of mankind is the beast.
Was that self revelation, an article you read, what? I mean, to me it sounds like something you pointed at and said, "that works."

Also, was Jesus really like not doing things for god and he realized what he was doing was for himself when he died on the cross? Like his miracles were, "hey look at what I can do," not "look at god's power!" Because that's what I'm getting from all that. Was that the plan from the get-go or did I read that wrong or...?

And since all the people that I know that are believe in god claim the beast to be the devil/antichrist, what do you make of the Book of Revelations in general? Something tells me your take on it is different than everyone else's.


Oh, and just telling you now, I'm not buying any of what you're selling. I'm cheap so I only buy clearance stuff. I'm mostly asking out of curiosity's sake and because you asked to be questioned. My lack of belief won't change because of you (or your deity) and I don't intend to deconvert you. Just seeing what makes you different than the other sheep, if you will.

[Image: notagain.gif]
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[+] 1 user Likes Miss Suzanne's post
11-01-2015, 01:15 AM
RE: I am Believer - Challenge My Beliefs
(11-01-2015 01:13 AM)Anjele Wrote:  
(11-01-2015 01:12 AM)AlephBet Wrote:  Which word are you referring to? Ad Hominem is not a good tool for debate. Try using something from the subject.

Read what I bolded.

You meant grammar.
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
11-01-2015, 01:17 AM
RE: I am Believer - Challenge My Beliefs
(11-01-2015 01:15 AM)AlephBet Wrote:  
(11-01-2015 01:13 AM)Anjele Wrote:  Read what I bolded.

You meant grammar.

Either way if you can't string together English properly I doubt your ability to decipher all your "proof" in Hebrew or any other language.

See here they are the bruises some were self-inflicted and some showed up along the way. - JF

We're all mad here. The Cheshire Cat
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[+] 1 user Likes Anjele's post
11-01-2015, 01:22 AM
RE: I am Believer - Challenge My Beliefs
(11-01-2015 01:04 AM)AlephBet Wrote:  
(11-01-2015 12:51 AM)houseofcantor Wrote:  StrongHouse, didn't they ban you at AF proselytizing, spammy douchebaggery, excessive use of scripture, and cruelty to animals, to wit, hamsters in the butt?

You've got that hyper-affect pareidolia going on; you better get that checked out before the stains in your ceiling tiles convince you to assassinate the French foreign minister.

Banning came when my argument was seen as airtight. I expect it will happen here as well. Truth is a sWord.

Question is, can you take it? My intent is from a heart of love. What have I said that is off topic, Ad Hominem or shows my desire to convert? Nothing. As a fact, the only thing I seek to show is that there is a higher truth than Christians know. Yahweh must be overcome. Jesus did it. By this, there are other scriptures outside the Bible to guide us above the former.

No conversion necessary. Just know thyself.

I never had an issue with you. Other than the obvious eccentricity, you struck me as thoughtful, sincere and intelligent. I wouldn't expect you to get banned here in the same manner. Oh, and welcome to the forum. Thumbsup

[Image: ZF1ZJ4M.jpg]
Visit this user's website Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
11-01-2015, 01:28 AM
RE: I am Believer - Challenge My Beliefs
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
Post Reply
Forum Jump: