I am Believer - Challenge My Beliefs
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11-01-2015, 01:30 AM
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RE: I am Believer - Challenge My Beliefs
(11-01-2015 01:14 AM)Miss Suzanne Wrote:(10-01-2015 11:20 PM)AlephBet Wrote: Right questions, so I'll answer. Christian belief is in error. If you don't overcome Yahweh / Satan, you cannot get to the Father / hidden God. Part of faith is overcoming the mark of the beast. Who is the beast? Christianity is made for the sick. It is a means to an end, allowing the process to overcome selfishness. I was a Christian until I realized what Christ died for. From this, I overcame as he overcame. The problem with being a Christian is that they worship the Lord (Yahweh) as the same Lord of the NT (Yeshua). They then define him as God the Father. In light of this verse, is this accurate? 1 Corinthians 15 25 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death. 27 For he “has put everything under his feet.” Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ. 28 When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all. By calling myself a Christian, I would be accepting the theology of Christianity. I do not accept it in it's prideful state of error. Theology is held in pride, just as self-righteousness causes sin and room for accusation through judgement. As any good Atheist would tell you, judge not lest ye be judged. This is the primary reason most people leave faith in the Bible. Yahweh is not the Lord to follow. He is the Lord overcome by Christ. Taking the name of Christ is not taking on the title Christian. It is taking the name by the character of the one who held the title. The name means Altruism and Love for others. Judgement, using the word as a tool for judgment, is the same error of Yahweh all over again. The proper title for me would be follower of the Spirit of God. That Spirit is exemplified in Christ. The Father's will is to give and receive only. This is the highest ideal. Only a thief can take. Judgment is taking. War is taking. There is no such thing as a righteous war. Satan was made by Yahweh (Genesis 3:1). Jesus overcome Satan. No fighting necessary. Love overcomes, which is the highest ideal of the true Spirit of God. If you are searching for the higher ideal, read the Gita. Do a slight bit of research into the name Shiva and Yeshua and you might just realize why the Jewish University is called, "Yeshiva." The Jews know their source. Read the Gita to know what the Lord is. From this, you know yourself. First, overcome what Arjuna overcame in chapter 1 of the allegory. If you don't, you'll never know the truth of the Spirit of God. This is the trap and cycle of rebirth that the Atheist and Judgmental Christian experiences. |
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11-01-2015, 01:35 AM
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RE: I am Believer - Challenge My Beliefs
(11-01-2015 01:14 AM)Miss Suzanne Wrote:(10-01-2015 11:20 PM)AlephBet Wrote: Right questions, so I'll answer. Christian belief is in error. If you don't overcome Yahweh / Satan, you cannot get to the Father / hidden God. Part of faith is overcoming the mark of the beast. Who is the beast? Christianity is made for the sick. It is a means to an end, allowing the process to overcome selfishness. I believe it all. I read it for what it says. Overcome the mind of Yahweh and silence Satan by doing this. Jesus overcome the same way. Love conquers all. Jesus message is valid in every respect. I simply look beyond to the root of this truth found in documents like the Upanishads. Once you read these, you can then go back and read the Bible clearly. What I outline about overcoming the Lord is overcoming the Self for the Spirit of God hidden behind it. You will not buy until you desire it. Give it time. |
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11-01-2015, 01:35 AM
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RE: I am Believer - Challenge My Beliefs
(11-01-2015 01:06 AM)AlephBet Wrote:(11-01-2015 12:55 AM)pablo Wrote: Challenge your beliefs? Why? You have no better argument than the last person that was here with their 'truth'. If you want a reasonable reply, make a reasonable statement. The shorter the better, nobody wants to read your long winded manifesto. |
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11-01-2015, 01:38 AM
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RE: I am Believer - Challenge My Beliefs
Oh brother
![]() Ain't no way to challenge your beliefs champ, you discovered the Truth. Anyway, why not try... Is your deity invisible? If not, why can't I see him? If so, why do you think he's there? |
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11-01-2015, 01:40 AM
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RE: I am Believer - Challenge My Beliefs
(11-01-2015 01:17 AM)Anjele Wrote:(11-01-2015 01:15 AM)AlephBet Wrote: You meant grammar. Breathing fire my way just to point out that I missed a letter in the thousands of words typed tonight? I would say I am doing pretty well. I read the Dhammapada to clear up my thinking regarding how to communicate with others. There is a universal law at play here: Choices We are what we think. All that we are arises with our thoughts. With our thoughts we make the world. Speak or act with an impure mind And trouble will follow you As the wheel follows the ox that draws the cart. We are what we think. All that we are arises with our thoughts. With our thoughts we make the world. Speak or act with a pure mind And happiness will follow you As your shadow, unshakable. "Look how he abused me and hurt me, How he threw me down and robbed me." Live with such thoughts and you live in hate. "Look how he abused me and hurt me, How he threw me down and robbed me." Abandon such thoughts, and live in love. In this world Hate never yet dispelled hate. Only love dispels hate. This is the law, Ancient and inexhaustible. Good stuff. Self is hard to control. The self-controlled mind is controlled by knowing the self. I read the Upanishads for this. |
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11-01-2015, 01:46 AM
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RE: I am Believer - Challenge My Beliefs
(11-01-2015 01:40 AM)AlephBet Wrote: Good stuff. Self is hard to control. The self-controlled mind is controlled by knowing the self. I read the Upanishads for this. ![]() ![]() |
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11-01-2015, 01:47 AM
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RE: I am Believer - Challenge My Beliefs
Also, just like AlephBet, I presuppose I'm correct.
Prove me wrong bitch. ![]() ![]() |
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11-01-2015, 02:01 AM
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RE: I am Believer - Challenge My Beliefs
Wow. Proof that if you take a whole bunch of religions, ignore all the inconvenient bits (~99.9%) and misinterpret/mistranslate/misrepresent what remains, you can prove anything. I'm astonished I am.
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Flesh and blood of a dead star, slain in the apocalypse of supernova, resurrected by four billion years of continuous autocatalytic reaction and crowned with the emergent property of sentience in the dream that the universe might one day understand itself.
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11-01-2015, 02:03 AM
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RE: I am Believer - Challenge My Beliefs
(11-01-2015 01:47 AM)EvolutionKills Wrote: Also, just like AlephBet, I presuppose I'm correct. If one uses one's own epistemology, one will always be correct. It's a neat trick. ![]() |
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11-01-2015, 02:19 AM
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RE: I am Believer - Challenge My Beliefs
(11-01-2015 01:35 AM)AlephBet Wrote: You will not buy until you desire it. Give it time. Honey bunches of oats in a cereal bowl, I'm not gonna give it time because I don't desire it. I'm not going to desire it. I suppose you can think of me as the customer and you the sales person. I'll ask you about the fancy thing because I'm too nice to slam the door in your face, you tell me why it's better than the one I already got and why it's worth so much damn money, and I say, "that's nice," before saying, "no thanks," and going back into my home. I'll be honest, you got a lot going on in what you said to me. Doesn't help that you put it in two posts. Did notice the "Shiva" ( the god of destruction, correct?), reincarnation, the Bhagavad Gita, and the Upanishads. Those being things within Hinduism. Does Hinduism play into what you believe? I mean, all you've been quoting is from the Holy Bible so the video of the Bhagavad Gita seemed out of nowhere. ![]() |
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