I am better off being a christian than an atheist
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11-11-2014, 04:13 AM (This post was last modified: 11-11-2014 06:17 AM by ZeldaAdmirer.)
I am better off being a christian than an atheist
I am an atheist myself and don't believe in a God or the supernatural. But I wish I wasn't an atheist because an afterlife of eternal joy would give my life the ultimate meaning and would make this one and only life more beautiful and worthwhile. If you are going to ask how having a religious belief is even supposed to make you view this life as having more value, worth and beauty, then this would all depend on if you either value a reward in the end in which you no longer have suffering and live an eternal life of joy, or that you find living such an eternal life to be boring or bad for any other reason. So it's the people who value other things besides an eternal life of joy and value other things like hardships and suffering who find this one and only life to be of greater value, worth, and beauty than an eternal life of joy. But because I would never be bored, go insane, and find immense value towards an eternal life of joy and no suffering and that I have no value whatsoever towards suffering, this is the reason why I would be more happier and better off with my christian belief that I once had in the past (which is now gone). Religious people (just specific religious people like me who find greater value in an eternal life of joy) would certainly value those other things I just mentioned, but would only value them greater through their religious belief. Being more happy towards something in life is very likely to make you that much as happy towards other things in life. Therefore, since my greatest happiness was directed towards an eternal life of joy when I had my christian belief in the past, then I also found my greatest happiness in other things in this specific life that I was living in as well. So, in short, nothing in this one and only life really matters. It only matters if there is an eternal life of joy for these religious people to have value and happiness towards which would then also make these religious people have value and happiness towards things in this life.

But I did have a christian belief in the past and it was my christian belief that allowed me to feel hope, comfort, and be more happy/less depressed in life. Me looking forward to going to heaven and there being a God encouraged me to find more worth and purpose in this life in striving for that reward of an afterlife of eternal joy of no suffering. Since I am a hedonist, an eternal life of pleasure is the ultimate reward that not only made me feel more happy and motivated in life, but also encouraged me to strive more in doing more great things in life and such knowing that I would obtain that reward in the end.

As for what someone might bring up which is quoted below:

“The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. The happiness of credulity is a cheap and dangerous quality of happiness, and by no means a necessity of life.”
― George Bernard Shaw, Androcles and the Lion

This is not true. If you or anyone else here has found other things in life of greater value than your pleasure (which would include finding greater things in life than even your own feelings of love), then you obviously have not experienced these feelings nearly as profound or meaningful as I have to know that they are truly the only good and greatest things in life. I should also include that I also value the pleasure of others just as much as I value my own.

Now it's only your lifestyle aspects, attitude, and any negative beliefs associated with your delusional religious beliefs that determines whether your delusional religious beliefs are detrimental to you and/or anyone else. But since all of those things just stated above were perfect with my christian belief and I had no negative beliefs such as that God would send me to hell since I believed that God was much more loving and caring than that, then my christian belief would have given me a great life in which I would not harm myself and/or others.

Now if you are going to say something such as that "Delusional beliefs are detrimental in and of themselves because they cloud your mind and limit your thinking," this would be false because as long as there is no harm done to you or anyone else and that you are truly more happy with your life, then you are just fine with your religious belief. As for me, when I had my christian belief in the past, I never did any bad deeds through my christian belief. I was just someone who helped others and played videogames and my life was just fine for me and others around me.

Finally, even some atheists can have much more depression due to their atheism and can even harm themselves/harm others and do even more bad things in their life through their atheist mindset than a religious person would. As far as I can tell, I would be this type of person no matter what and would never be able to change or even change to the point where I would be just as good or better off with my atheism than my christian belief. Although I would never harm others no matter what since I care about others. I would also never look down upon atheists if I still had my christian belief and think that they are perhaps stupid for being atheists. I would respect their atheism anyway despite me being a christian. I never did such a thing anyway when I had my christian belief in the past.
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11-11-2014, 04:18 AM
RE: I am better off being a christian than an atheist
All those links providing statistics to back up your claims really sealed our fate...

....wait, what?
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11-11-2014, 04:18 AM
RE: I am better off being a christian than an atheist
Good for you.

Now piss off!

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11-11-2014, 04:22 AM
RE: I am better off being a christian than an atheist
At work.

Just a point..... but why Christianity? Why not look into budism(sp)? Or Tao? Or any of thr number of native beliefs (American or other wise)?

You seem to bex'Shopping for faith'. Why settle forcfirst off the shelf? Give Wotanism a try, they have really good get togethers. Smile

Much cheers to all
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11-11-2014, 04:26 AM (This post was last modified: 11-11-2014 04:31 AM by Nurse.)
RE: I am better off being a christian than an atheist
Aww, Linky, you took our suggestions for how to summarize and write shorter posts. Bless your heart, reading your post gave me a glimpse of what hedonism must be like - painfully boring, dull, and lifeless.

Now go talk to a shrink and get on antidepressants.

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11-11-2014, 04:26 AM
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(11-11-2014 04:13 AM)ZeldaAdmirer Wrote:  If you or anyone else here has found other things in life of greater value than your pleasure (which would include finding greater things in life than even your own feelings of love), then you obviously have not experienced these feelings nearly as profound or meaningful as I have to know that they are truly the only good and greatest things in life.

You spout off creepy-assed cultish bullshit like this, then you say there's no harm in religious indoctrination. Yay.

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11-11-2014, 04:28 AM
RE: I am better off being a christian than an atheist
I'll never understand how living your life waiting to die (so you can then get to the good part) somehow gives your life greater meaning.
Why not make the most of your limited time now?
Once you're dead you'll have no regrets.
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11-11-2014, 04:29 AM
RE: I am better off being a christian than an atheist
Yea Nurse, he sure went out of the way to fool us with that new screen name.
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11-11-2014, 04:30 AM
RE: I am better off being a christian than an atheist
(11-11-2014 04:26 AM)houseofcantor Wrote:  
(11-11-2014 04:13 AM)ZeldaAdmirer Wrote:  If you or anyone else here has found other things in life of greater value than your pleasure (which would include finding greater things in life than even your own feelings of love), then you obviously have not experienced these feelings nearly as profound or meaningful as I have to know that they are truly the only good and greatest things in life.

You spout off creepy-assed cultish bullshit like this, then you say there's no harm in religious indoctrination. Yay.

I should also include that I also value the pleasure of others just as much as I value my own.
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11-11-2014, 04:33 AM
RE: I am better off being a christian than an atheist
You forgot to mention your analdonia and diarrhea.
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