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11-11-2014, 06:26 AM
RE: I am better off being a christian than an atheist
(11-11-2014 05:08 AM)morondog Wrote:  Oh it's MozartLink back again to explain himself in tedious posts Rolleyes
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11-11-2014, 06:27 AM
RE: I am better off being a christian than an atheist
(11-11-2014 06:25 AM)Stuffed_Assumption_Meringue Wrote:  
(11-11-2014 06:19 AM)ZeldaAdmirer Wrote:  So, in short, nothing in this one and only life really matters. It only matters if there is an eternal life of joy for these religious people to have value and happiness towards which would then also make these religious people have value and happiness towards things in this life.
I'm a little annoyed that I spent a perfectly good pun on you but fuck it, I'm game:
Break that down into logical steps. At the moment you're just asserting that a finite life is less meaningful.

I have already given the answer to that which I will now quote below:

Quote:If you are going to ask how having a religious belief is even supposed to make you view this life as having more value, worth and beauty, then this would all depend on if you either value a reward in the end in which you no longer have suffering and live an eternal life of joy, or that you find living such an eternal life to be boring or bad for any other reason. So it's the people who value other things besides an eternal life of joy and value other things like hardships and suffering who find this one and only life to be of greater value, worth, and beauty than an eternal life of joy. But because I would never be bored, go insane, and find immense value towards an eternal life of joy and no suffering and that I have no value whatsoever towards suffering, this is the reason why I would be more happier and better off with my christian belief that I once had in the past (which is now gone). Religious people (just specific religious people like me who find greater value in an eternal life of joy) would certainly value those other things I just mentioned, but would only value them greater through their religious belief. Being more happy towards something in life is very likely to make you that much as happy towards other things in life. Therefore, since my greatest happiness was directed towards an eternal life of joy when I had my christian belief in the past, then I also found my greatest happiness in other things in this specific life that I was living in as well.
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11-11-2014, 06:28 AM
RE: I am better off being a christian than an atheist
Hi MozartLink! Bye MozartLink!
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11-11-2014, 06:48 AM
RE: I am better off being a christian than an atheist
*Be Christian
*Await glorious afterlife
*Disregard fabric-blend warnings
*Die

... Seems lame. Regardless of whether you believe in an afterlife or not, there almost certainly isn't going to be one. Besides, with an omniscient and omnipotent god, you can be a good natured atheist and still get into heaven... Either that or god's a right cunt and not worthy of worship (since belief isn't a choice, he would know what it would take to let someone believe in him and had the power to supply evidence)
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11-11-2014, 07:07 AM
RE: I am better off being a christian than an atheist
(11-11-2014 04:13 AM)ZeldaAdmirer Wrote:  I am an atheist myself and don't believe in a God or the supernatural. But I wish I wasn't an atheist because an afterlife of eternal joy would give my life the ultimate meaning and would make this one and only life more beautiful and worthwhile. If you are going to ask how having a religious belief is even supposed to make you view this life as having more value, worth and beauty, then this would all depend on if you either value a reward in the end in which you no longer have suffering and live an eternal life of joy, or that you find living such an eternal life to be boring or bad for any other reason. So it's the people who value other things besides an eternal life of joy and value other things like hardships and suffering who find this one and only life to be of greater value, worth, and beauty than an eternal life of joy. But because I would never be bored, go insane, and find immense value towards an eternal life of joy and no suffering and that I have no value whatsoever towards suffering, this is the reason why I would be more happier and better off with my christian belief that I once had in the past (which is now gone). Religious people (just specific religious people like me who find greater value in an eternal life of joy) would certainly value those other things I just mentioned, but would only value them greater through their religious belief. Being more happy towards something in life is very likely to make you that much as happy towards other things in life. Therefore, since my greatest happiness was directed towards an eternal life of joy when I had my christian belief in the past, then I also found my greatest happiness in other things in this specific life that I was living in as well. So, in short, nothing in this one and only life really matters. It only matters if there is an eternal life of joy for these religious people to have value and happiness towards which would then also make these religious people have value and happiness towards things in this life.

But I did have a christian belief in the past and it was my christian belief that allowed me to feel hope, comfort, and be more happy/less depressed in life. Me looking forward to going to heaven and there being a God encouraged me to find more worth and purpose in this life in striving for that reward of an afterlife of eternal joy of no suffering. Since I am a hedonist, an eternal life of pleasure is the ultimate reward that not only made me feel more happy and motivated in life, but also encouraged me to strive more in doing more great things in life and such knowing that I would obtain that reward in the end.

As for what someone might bring up which is quoted below:

“The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. The happiness of credulity is a cheap and dangerous quality of happiness, and by no means a necessity of life.”
― George Bernard Shaw, Androcles and the Lion

This is not true. If you or anyone else here has found other things in life of greater value than your pleasure (which would include finding greater things in life than even your own feelings of love), then you obviously have not experienced these feelings nearly as profound or meaningful as I have to know that they are truly the only good and greatest things in life. I should also include that I also value the pleasure of others just as much as I value my own.

Now it's only your lifestyle aspects, attitude, and any negative beliefs associated with your delusional religious beliefs that determines whether your delusional religious beliefs are detrimental to you and/or anyone else. But since all of those things just stated above were perfect with my christian belief and I had no negative beliefs such as that God would send me to hell since I believed that God was much more loving and caring than that, then my christian belief would have given me a great life in which I would not harm myself and/or others.

Now if you are going to say something such as that "Delusional beliefs are detrimental in and of themselves because they cloud your mind and limit your thinking," this would be false because as long as there is no harm done to you or anyone else and that you are truly more happy with your life, then you are just fine with your religious belief. As for me, when I had my christian belief in the past, I never did any bad deeds through my christian belief. I was just someone who helped others and played videogames and my life was just fine for me and others around me.

Finally, even some atheists can have much more depression due to their atheism and can even harm themselves/harm others and do even more bad things in their life through their atheist mindset than a religious person would. As far as I can tell, I would be this type of person no matter what and would never be able to change or even change to the point where I would be just as good or better off with my atheism than my christian belief. Although I would never harm others no matter what since I care about others. I would also never look down upon atheists if I still had my christian belief and think that they are perhaps stupid for being atheists. I would respect their atheism anyway despite me being a christian. I never did such a thing anyway when I had my christian belief in the past.

This shit sounds ever so familiar.

But golly gee I just can't put my finger on where I heard it before.

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11-11-2014, 07:16 AM
RE: I am better off being a christian than an atheist
We'd all be better off being Santa believers.
Cuz then we'd think we were gonna get presents.

Brilliant. Simply brilliant.

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11-11-2014, 07:20 AM
RE: I am better off being a christian than an atheist
Are you implying that Santa is not real? Cause when I woke last Christmas there were presents under the tree. That is far and away more evidence ever provided for God.
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11-11-2014, 07:20 AM
RE: I am better off being a christian than an atheist
(11-11-2014 07:16 AM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  We'd all be better off being Santa believers.
Cuz then we'd think we were gonna get presents.

Brilliant. Simply brilliant.

Yep; never mind the let down when the pones never come.

We just have to trust Sainty Claus knows best and we'll get our gifts.

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11-11-2014, 07:25 AM
RE: I am better off being a christian than an atheist
(11-11-2014 06:19 AM)ZeldaAdmirer Wrote:  So, in short, nothing in this one and only life really matters.

What an incredibly sad, pathetic view. Unfortunately it seems to sum up the main problem with theism as practiced these days.

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11-11-2014, 07:34 AM
RE: I am better off being a christian than an atheist
Given that it's crystal clear that this is another sockpuppet of MozartLink, can the mods please ban this retard again, please?
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