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09-01-2012, 04:56 PM
RE: I believe in a higher power, but I love & respect all views & welcome friendly debate
(09-01-2012 04:15 PM)kingschosen Wrote:  Yeah, I definitely think you should, Weirdkid... Sharks too.

I'll do it when you're finished

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"Atheists express their rage against God although in their view He does not exist." C.S. Lewis
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09-01-2012, 05:00 PM
RE: I believe in a higher power, but I love & respect all views & welcome friendly debate
(09-01-2012 04:13 PM)Jim Wrote:  Weird Kid, why don't you try to make the questions in the Questions for the Christian believer topic?
KC can support some help maybe?
Please, Jim give the kid a break! Wink
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09-01-2012, 05:28 PM
RE: I believe in a higher power, but I love & respect all views & welcome friendly debate
(09-01-2012 05:00 PM)Mr Woof Wrote:  
(09-01-2012 04:13 PM)Jim Wrote:  Weird Kid, why don't you try to make the questions in the Questions for the Christian believer topic?
KC can support some help maybe?
Please, Jim give the kid a break! Wink
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09-01-2012, 06:05 PM
RE: I believe in a higher power, but I love & respect all views & welcome friendly debate
Welcome Smile

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09-01-2012, 06:40 PM
RE: I believe in a higher power, but I love & respect all views & welcome friendly debate
(09-01-2012 09:47 AM)kingschosen Wrote:  Also, how old are you?
Please don't ask paedophile priest questions........Wink
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09-01-2012, 08:22 PM
RE: I believe in a higher power, but I love & respect all views & welcome friendly debate
Thank you for welcoming me Big Grin And yes I tend to contradict myself quite a bit but I assure you I don't mean to. As for the language, I am 17 and am alive. So I doubt that will be an issue. As for past circumstances, A church called myself and my family liars because of an incident that happened to me at camp. We left the church and I felt abandoned by everyone and everything. We moved 2 hrs away so my dad could take up a job and since then he has lost his job and been in 5 automobile accidents. He had to go back to school and is now a licensed physical therapy assistant in NM, NC, and GA. We are struggling financially and have been for quite some time. Through this time all I had was God because my faith in humanity has been compromised. So, for a while I was angry at the deity I believe in and I, in fact, still am. Regardless of this I still believe he exists and cares and I don't blame him for not seeming to care. I wouldn't either if I was him. I am still determining who I am and what I will do with my life. Thank you all for the welcome and I look forward to conversing with you.
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09-01-2012, 08:57 PM (This post was last modified: 09-01-2012 09:16 PM by GirlyMan.)
RE: I believe in a higher power, but I love & respect all views & welcome friendly debate
(08-01-2012 10:05 PM)Thatweirdkid Wrote:  I believe in a higher power ...

Reminds Girly of his one and only AA meeting decades ago when I questioned the second step "I came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity." My obvious response was "Why can't that Power be within myself and I just haven't realized it yet?" ... crickets chirped and Girly was no longer interested in AA.

As it was in the beginning is now and ever shall be, world without end. Amen.
And I will show you something different from either
Your shadow at morning striding behind you
Or your shadow at evening rising to meet you;
I will show you fear in a handful of dust.
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09-01-2012, 11:35 PM
RE: I believe in a higher power, but I love & respect all views & welcome friendly debate
(09-01-2012 08:22 PM)Thatweirdkid Wrote:  Thank you for welcoming me Big Grin And yes I tend to contradict myself quite a bit but I assure you I don't mean to. As for the language, I am 17 and am alive. So I doubt that will be an issue. As for past circumstances, A church called myself and my family liars because of an incident that happened to me at camp. We left the church and I felt abandoned by everyone and everything. We moved 2 hrs away so my dad could take up a job and since then he has lost his job and been in 5 automobile accidents. He had to go back to school and is now a licensed physical therapy assistant in NM, NC, and GA. We are struggling financially and have been for quite some time. Through this time all I had was God because my faith in humanity has been compromised. So, for a while I was angry at the deity I believe in and I, in fact, still am. Regardless of this I still believe he exists and cares and I don't blame him for not seeming to care. I wouldn't either if I was him. I am still determining who I am and what I will do with my life. Thank you all for the welcome and I look forward to conversing with you.

On your road to redemption I suggest the following exercise. Take out your bible and start with Genesis 1. Read each paragraph carefully and in a notebook fill in your thoughts in these two categories:
This makes sense and is plausible / This makes no sense and is implausible
When you finish genesis write a summary of who you think wrote the book and why they wrote it.
Report back on your findings.
Good luck.

The old gods are dead, let's invent some new ones before something really bad happens.
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10-01-2012, 01:01 PM
RE: I believe in a higher power, but I love & respect all views & welcome friendly debate
Okay comrade first of all welcome!
Second,I would like to get your stance on the following issues:
Gay marriage
Abortion
What political ideology do you relate to?
What are your thoughts on the republican party?
Do you approve of government to be entirely separated from religion?
What are your thoughts on corporal punishment?(Domestic/school)
Major reasons for why you believe in a deity/higher power?

I hope this does not seem...somewhat aimed towards you or in any way mocking.
Oh and yes,enjoy your stay!

The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism.
-Karl Marx


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10-01-2012, 01:26 PM
RE: I believe in a higher power, but I love & respect all views & welcome friendly debate
(10-01-2012 01:01 PM)znk666 Wrote:  Okay comrade first of all welcome!
Second,I would like to get your stance on the following issues:

Gay marriage-I believe that gay marriage is not the definition of marriage that the Bible has and therefore disagree with it. But I am not completely convinced on this. I am not gay and I love and respect gay people, but when their life overlaps mine, I do not like this. For example, if a gay guy where to ask me out. That would not fly. But I am commanded to love them and choose too. They are human too after all.
But I do not believe people are "born gay".


Abortion-
What political ideology do you relate to?- I think all politics are corrupt but we need government, it's just being done incorrectly. But hey that's humans for you. I would say I am closest to the Republican side but I by no means agree with all they say. And as for the Tea Party I'm not sure yet.. Most politicians look out for their own good and not the good of the whole.

What are your thoughts on the republican party?- I think they are right on many of the issues I hold important. But they're not perfect either. I believe politics as we know it is corrupt.


Do you approve of government to be entirely separated from religion?- I think the government should not interfere with Religious organizations except to collect taxes. However I think the Government shouldn't just decide where they want to send the money. They should let the people that pay choose and then make sure they give it. That's just my opinion though. And I think that originally Religion was in government but that was when the majority could decide and agree on how much one could say about god to an extent that it didn't offend anyone. I think now the Government should not implement special recognition of any religion or lack of religion in it's affairs. The common good should come first.

What are your thoughts on corporal punishment?(Domestic/school) I don't really understand the question. Forgive me.

Major reasons for why you believe in a deity/higher power?-I believe in a God majorly because my mind for some reason cannot think of this universe possibly existing without something behind it. I find it much easier to believe that God can take nothing and make something than for something to come from nothing on its own. This disagrees with the 1st law of thermodynamics. matter can only change forms and can't be created or destroyed. I think God can do things we can't so He created matter. I do not believe even when there was nothing there was matter. Either you believe matter has always been, coming from nowhere but still being there somehow, or you believe a supernatural being has always been there that loves you and cares about you and gives you a purpose.

I hope this does not seem...somewhat aimed towards you or in any way mocking.
Oh and yes,enjoy your stay!

It doesn't seem to be aimed toward or mocking. These are legitimate questions you are bringing up.

And thanks! I think I will.
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