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01-10-2017, 05:21 PM (This post was last modified: 01-10-2017 05:28 PM by wendigo.)
RE: I believe the Bible teaches correct morals (mostly)...
Bucky are you trying to intimidate me by threatening being banned? How thick are you? Why would I care about that? I'm not going anywhere, I'm still going to be here in reality, while you're in here in virtual fantasy land with your anonymous nob playmates. If I or anyone else walks past you on the sidewalk, you dont act like a tough guy like in here. No mouthing at all, you divert your eyes and hope the moment will pass. I know your type. Look away and then turn up the earbuds. You strike me as rhe type who'll be found dead at his pc due to a wank-induced heart attack one day.
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01-10-2017, 05:29 PM
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(01-10-2017 05:21 PM)wendigo Wrote:  Bucky are you trying to intimidate me by threatening being banned? How thick are you? Why would I care about that? I'm not going anywhere, I'm still going to be here in reality, while you're in here in virtual fantasy land with your anonymous nob playmates. If I or anyone else walks past you on the sidewalk, you dont act like a tough guy like in here. No mouthing at all, you divert your eyes and hope the moment will pass. I know your type. Look away and then turn up the earbuds. You strike me as rhe type who'll be found dead at his pc due to a wank-induced heart attack one day.

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01-10-2017, 05:41 PM (This post was last modified: 01-10-2017 06:36 PM by Bucky Ball.)
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(01-10-2017 05:21 PM)wendigo Wrote:  Bucky are you trying to intimidate me by threatening being banned? How thick are you? Why would I care about that? I'm not going anywhere, I'm still going to be here in reality, while you're in here in virtual fantasy land with your anonymous nob playmates. If I or anyone else walks past you on the sidewalk, you dont act like a tough guy like in here. No mouthing at all, you divert your eyes and hope the moment will pass. I know your type. Look away and then turn up the earbuds. You strike me as rhe type who'll be found dead at his pc due to a wank-induced heart attack one day.

Paranoid. Get help. You need meds. YOU posted pornography. How Christian of you. Did the Bible tell you how to do that ?

Quote:If I or anyone else walks past you on the sidewalk, you dont act like a tough guy like in here.

Thanks for confirming you make up shit and tell yourself what your little reality is, with no objective fact. That's been evident all along.
Interesting you knew JUST where to find the gay porno you posted. We get it. It's OK to be gay.


Whatever you say dear. Whatever you say.
You've confirmed for everyone to see the good your "Christian" shit has done for you.

LMAO.
Here's some help for you, gramps.
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Your *students* will be very proud of what you did here.

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01-10-2017, 05:43 PM (This post was last modified: 01-10-2017 05:54 PM by Fatbaldhobbit.)
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(01-10-2017 12:49 PM)wendigo Wrote:  The answer to all four of your questions is yes. Russia has an at least 50% christian pedigree, the vast majority of which are Orthodox.

Except that during the space race and indeed, all of Russia's modernization, the country was communist and suppressed all religion.


(01-10-2017 12:49 PM)wendigo Wrote:  Russia is a Christian country. Rolleyes

Well, the orthodox church is again gaining power.

Guess what they're doing? Rewriting history.

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(01-10-2017 12:49 PM)wendigo Wrote:  You guys love to throw the name Gallileo around...why not Newton? You know, the guy who revolutionized math and physics arguably more than any other figure. He hailed from Cambridge University, specifically "Trinity" College.

Except Newton was not a christian in the traditional sense. Multiple religious scholars consider his views heretical and he himself considered worship of christ as god an act of idolatry.

(01-10-2017 12:49 PM)wendigo Wrote:  A peron could go on all day about religious institutions that have spawned all the leading scientists of our time and the time before us, but no, Christianity has no appreciable positive effect on our society. Rolleyes

Name those religious institutions.
(I won't hold my breath...)


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01-10-2017, 06:18 PM
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(01-10-2017 04:45 PM)wendigo Wrote:  
(01-10-2017 04:21 PM)Thoreauvian Wrote:  Just because western society and science are so advanced doesn't mean that's because of its Christian history. As I already mentioned (and you ignored), Christians lived through 1000 years of the dark ages before the Arabs reintroduced Greek and Roman writings to the west, and helped spark the Renaissance. It seems to me that for this reason alone we should give much more credit to the Arabs, Greeks, and Romans than to Christianity for modern western achievements. Christianity by itself was almost worthless.

So yes, I do dispute "the fact of the matter" since I think history supports this view.

Yes we should give them more credit. And not take Credit from the Christians for the very same reason if we're trying to be logical.

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What does the Christians mean in this context? Still, it goes into a weird incoherent point of influence.

If it did influence them all and the current Christians thar believe different things than those are good people. So what?

The Christians of those days were just being good moral people go their codes then too but you even seem to think 2017 people are more moral... so what are you saying, just accept status quo moral good or something? You've dropped trying to make a point days ago.

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01-10-2017, 07:06 PM
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(01-10-2017 03:49 PM)DLJ Wrote:  
(01-10-2017 11:52 AM)wendigo Wrote:  Check my ip all you like, I am who I say I am. I stand by every statement I've made here as I dont fear the likes of you.
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Well, would you look at that!

I've made three or four attempts to seek clarification and engage on the substance of the issue ... all ignored. Yet, my one flippant remark gets a reply.

This is what I was referring to earlier about actively seeking out the perceived personal affronts. Do you have a therapist?

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(01-10-2017 11:52 AM)wendigo Wrote:  ...
-Christians are trying to do good and represent the solid morals that they get from the bible/pastors. That means yes they ignore the bad parts and it's irrelevant if they need the book in the first place because this is the reality of it.
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Had you said 'pastors' in the first place there may never have been an issue.

Although, Rabbis might have been a better term. Priests, pastors (we don't have pastors where I'm from), vicars, ayatollah etc. have a less than favourable rep.

(01-10-2017 11:52 AM)wendigo Wrote:  ...
-the western world is founded on christianity, though since the enlightenment it's not real christian rule but that does nothing to change the beneficial effect it's had on our moral and socio political and scientific development.
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I can accept that. Can you also accept the non-beneficial effect.

I'm of the opinion that the latter outweighs the former.

(01-10-2017 11:52 AM)wendigo Wrote:  ...
-you're all a bunch of abject cringey basement experts who need a bitch slap at least twice per day.
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I live on the 31st floor.

(01-10-2017 11:52 AM)wendigo Wrote:  ...
You may be of differing opinion, but outside of this shithole forum, the majority of real atheists take a more moderate, inclusive approach than most of you do.

Real atheists = Really don't believe claims of the supernatural.
Moderate atheists = Moderately don't believe claims of the supernatural. Huh
Inclusive atheists = Happy to allow believers to live on our planet if they behave themselves.
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(01-10-2017 11:59 AM)adey67 Wrote:  La la la la la, banhammers coming. Rolleyes

Why? Not because he's annoying you, I hope. Tongue

The ban-hammer is usually for those who shit on the rug. So far, it's like he's drunk his own cheap wine that he brought to the party, stumbled up the garden path as far as the dog kennel and took a shit there.

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(01-10-2017 11:59 AM)Cheerful Charlie Wrote:  ...
hordes of naturalists
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Ah! That's the collective noun. I had wondered. I thought is was an 'Attenborough of naturalists'.

(01-10-2017 11:59 AM)Cheerful Charlie Wrote:  ...
By the time of Rene Descartes, the intellectuals of the West had adopted the idea of a mechanistic natural world. The big problem how do souls interact with the mechanical Universe
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Knowing as much as I don't about Monsieur Descartes, I have pet theory about this.

I reckon it was a political move.

Ol' Rene came up with this ruse to keep the pesky meddling church out of the science business by saying, "Look guys, we'll do the maths and stuff and you can play over there with the intangibles. See you later."

True story. Yes

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Renes Descartes started to reform philosophy for the specific reason of putting philosophy on a sound footing much as Euclid had done for mathematics. This was supposed to lead up to proving God's existence, which it never did. Descartes was very interested in natural philosophy and mathematics. But his work in science received a sharp check when the Vatican arrested Galileo. Decartes was also on thin ice and had to postpone publishing his works on science for fear of imperial entanglements. In the end his metaphysics in regard to God failed. His basic idea about science was based on an old idea expounded by several theologians, notably, William of Okham. God does not work by a stream of miracles. he set up a system of secondary causes that took care of things without God's constant involvement. Science's task was to understand what these laws were and how they worked. Of course an atheist can deny God did any such thing and that the laws of nature had no intelligent author. Some of Descarte's more controversial writings were only published after his death, due to fear of persecution by angry theologians

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01-10-2017, 08:13 PM
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Wingbat, you were warned already about posting porn...

I said before Shoo fly....

Now this time I've shown you the door.


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01-10-2017, 08:14 PM
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So much for Mr. Morals.

Epic crash and burn.

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01-10-2017, 08:25 PM
I believe the Bible teaches correct morals (mostly)...
Of course his walk away with some notion his grand ideas were the issue these smattering hateful atheists couldn't take not just a spiral of disregard to sensibility and rules he broke.

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01-10-2017, 09:38 PM (This post was last modified: 01-10-2017 11:16 PM by EvolutionKills.)
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(01-10-2017 11:45 AM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  
(01-10-2017 10:54 AM)wendigo Wrote:  I've managed to stretch this thread to a hilarious length just by whimsically popping in here and touching on topics guaranteed to ruffle your feathers.
Oh, you must be new here. You are just the latest in a long line of Dipshit-Of-The-Week. You are not new. You are not fresh. You are not unique. You will not be the last. Either you will tire yourself out, or you'll push one of the rules too far and get yourself Ban-Hammered. Then you will be gone, but we will remain. I've seen this same scenario play out dozens upon dozens of times before, and you sir are not even Bush League.

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(01-10-2017 08:13 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  Wingbat, you were warned already about posting porn...

I said before Shoo fly....

Now this time I've shown you the door.

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