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24-03-2017, 08:15 AM (This post was last modified: 24-03-2017 08:18 AM by RocketSurgeon76.)
I believe the mods have made a serious mistake.
http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/forum/...my-4-cents

You should not have locked this thread, in the first place. Perhaps a brief pause, to give people time to calm down ("count to ten", as one put it), if people were becoming over-emotionally-charged in their posts. I do not believe that was the case, but it's a legitimate thing to temporarily lock a thread for a few minutes, a couple of hours, whatever. But it was simply locked down and remains so. This is a grievous error on the part of the mods, and I think will do ultimate harm to this forum.

I'm tired of seeing people praised on this site for "speaking their minds", when in reality they're just being a harmful asshole to others and then trying to hide it behind free speech. I'm tired of seeing people being allowed to get away with calling others pussies or snowflakes or whatever because they think basic human decency includes some respect and empathy for others. And I'm most certainly tired of having to worry if the ruling censors will decide who can and cannot respond when an asshole has been set loose among us, crying about how he has to be able to treat people like shit or else there's no free speech.

Well free speech works both ways. I have to be free to point out not only that the person is an asshole but exactly why it is that they're an asshole, or free speech is utterly stifled-- all you've done, then, is hand a microphone to a hatemonger and gagged anyone who might counter his hateful speech.

This sort of mod overreach and censorship of the wrong things is why I left AF, and why we just recently got an influx from Amazon. I would hate to lose my motivation for coming to a place like this, and I feel that I'm probably not the only one who would go.

You fucked up, mods. That's all there is to it. Unlock that thread and let Muffs take the lumps he has coming to him, instead of protecting his ass when he's being an ass. A brief pause might have mitigated the damage, sure, but at this point it's just growing into a rage I may have to take a few posts to discharge fully into that shit-bird's vacuous skull.

Trust me, the longer you keep that thread locked, the worse it will be for everyone.

And if you keep protecting that asshole long enough, you're going to have a higher collection of assholes than non-assholes here.

Best decide now what sort of voice y'all want in this place, because it appears you've made a choice, and it's not a good direction in which to take this forum.

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24-03-2017, 08:21 AM
RE: I believe the mods have mad a serious mistake.
(24-03-2017 08:15 AM)RocketSurgeon76 Wrote:  http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/forum/...my-4-cents

You should not have locked this thread, in the first place. Perhaps a brief pause, to give people time to calm down ("count to ten", as one put it), if people were becoming over-emotionally-charged in their posts. I do not believe that was the case, but it's a legitimate thing to temporarily lock a thread for a few minutes, a couple of hours, whatever. But it was simply locked down and remains so. This is a grievous error on the part of the mods, and I think will do ultimate harm to this forum.

I'm tired of seeing people praised on this site for "speaking their minds", when in reality they're just being a harmful asshole to others and then trying to hide it behind free speech. I'm tired of seeing people being allowed to get away with calling others pussies or snowflakes or whatever because they think basic human decency includes some respect and empathy for others. And I'm most certainly tired of having to worry if the ruling censors will decide who can and cannot respond when an asshole has been set loose among us, crying about how he has to be able to treat people like shit or else there's no free speech.

Well free speech works both ways. I have to be free to point out not only that the person is an asshole but exactly why it is that they're an asshole, or free speech is utterly stifled-- all you've done, then, is hand a microphone to a hatemonger and gagged anyone who might counter his hateful speech.

This sort of mod overreach and censorship of the wrong things is why I left AF, and why we just recently got an influx from Amazon. I would hate to lose my motivation for coming to a place like this, and I feel that I'm probably not the only one who would go.

You fucked up, mods. That's all there is to it. Unlock that thread and let Muffs take the lumps he has coming to him, instead of protecting his ass when he's being an ass. A brief pause might have mitigated the damage, sure, but at this point it's just growing into a rage I may have to take a few posts to discharge fully into that shit-bird's vacuous skull.

Trust me, the longer you keep that thread locked, the worse it will be for everyone.

And if you keep protecting that asshole long enough, you're going to have a higher collection of assholes than non-assholes here.

Best decide now what sort of voice y'all want in this place, because it appears you've made a choice, and it's not a good direction in which to take this forum.

I believe it was locked so people could cool down overnight. It probably will be opened again today. We rarely lock threads, but sometimes it seems best to pause until cooler heads have a chance to prevail. It's happened a few times before in distant history. It usually works.

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24-03-2017, 08:25 AM
RE: I believe the mods have made a serious mistake.
Rev literally said he was locking it temporarily to let things cool down a bit.

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24-03-2017, 08:31 AM
RE: I believe the mods have made a serious mistake.
(24-03-2017 08:25 AM)JDog554 Wrote:  Rev literally said he was locking it temporarily to let things cool down a bit.

Yes, he said he would open it again "in the morning", which... has not happened. But I guess it isn't noon yet.

It should not have been for that long...it should not have happened in the first place. If it had to happen, it should have been as limited as possible.

This. Is. A. Fuck. Up.

Own it.

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24-03-2017, 08:34 AM
RE: I believe the mods have made a serious mistake.
(24-03-2017 08:31 AM)RocketSurgeon76 Wrote:  
(24-03-2017 08:25 AM)JDog554 Wrote:  Rev literally said he was locking it temporarily to let things cool down a bit.

Yes, he said he would open it again "in the morning", which... has not happened. But I guess it isn't noon yet.

It should not have been for that long...it should not have happened in the first place. If it had to happen, it should have been as limited as possible.

This. Is. A. Fuck. Up.

Own it.

Dunno what time zone he is in or what his day is like, it's 7:30 am where I am.

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24-03-2017, 08:34 AM
RE: I believe the mods have made a serious mistake.
(24-03-2017 08:25 AM)JDog554 Wrote:  Rev literally said he was locking it temporarily to let things cool down a bit.

Here's what I don't get and its not a criticism of the mods I'm just curious to know why this thread ? There are shed loads of combative threads on TTA where temperatures are at boiling point and I don't see them shut down in order to cool off. Like I said its NOT a criticism I'd just kinda like to understand the rationale behind temporarily closing this particular thread.
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24-03-2017, 08:38 AM
RE: I believe the mods have made a serious mistake.
(24-03-2017 08:31 AM)RocketSurgeon76 Wrote:  
(24-03-2017 08:25 AM)JDog554 Wrote:  Rev literally said he was locking it temporarily to let things cool down a bit.

Yes, he said he would open it again "in the morning", which... has not happened. But I guess it isn't noon yet.

It should not have been for that long...it should not have happened in the first place. If it had to happen, it should have been as limited as possible.

This. Is. A. Fuck. Up.

Own it.

It's open now, at least on my end and idk, maybe he lives in a different time zone?

(24-03-2017 08:34 AM)adey67 Wrote:  
(24-03-2017 08:25 AM)JDog554 Wrote:  Rev literally said he was locking it temporarily to let things cool down a bit.

Here's what I don't get and its not a criticism of the mods I'm just curious to know why this thread ? There are shed loads of combative threads on TTA where temperatures are at boiling point and I don't see them shut down in order to cool off. Like I said its NOT a criticism I'd just kinda like to understand the rationale behind temporarily closing this particular thread.

Idk, have to ask Rev.

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24-03-2017, 08:41 AM
RE: I believe the mods have made a serious mistake.
Adey, RS, mods are just people. People do indeed make mis steps all their lives. Since each one is an individual, there is no unified mindspeak amongst the management anywhere, so long as every move that is made is not voted on by a committee.
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24-03-2017, 08:45 AM
RE: I believe the mods have made a serious mistake.
(24-03-2017 08:31 AM)RocketSurgeon76 Wrote:  
(24-03-2017 08:25 AM)JDog554 Wrote:  Rev literally said he was locking it temporarily to let things cool down a bit.

Yes, he said he would open it again "in the morning", which... has not happened. But I guess it isn't noon yet.

It should not have been for that long...it should not have happened in the first place. If it had to happen, it should have been as limited as possible.

This. Is. A. Fuck. Up.

Own it.

This. Is. A. Xanax.

Take it.
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24-03-2017, 08:50 AM
RE: I believe the mods have made a serious mistake.
(24-03-2017 08:41 AM)skyking Wrote:  Adey, RS, mods are just people. People do indeed make mis steps all their lives. Since each one is an individual, there is no unified mindspeak amongst the management anywhere, so long as every move that is made is not voted on by a committee.

So I'm guessing what you're saying is that it was kinda a random independent decision ? I can go with that I guess, like I say its not a criticism I'm just a little bemused.
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