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19-05-2016, 05:38 PM
RE: I came home to find someone breaking into my home!
(19-05-2016 09:51 AM)jason_delisle Wrote:  This is the issue I have. I know many people swear that they would never murder someone in cold blood. However, given the right circumstances, I believe that many people would be willing to murder a kid as long as they knew they would not be held legally responsible for it. What do you think?

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19-05-2016, 05:40 PM
RE: I came home to find someone breaking into my home!
(19-05-2016 03:00 PM)Minimalist Wrote:  
Quote:What do you think?


What color was the kid. And what color were the people telling you to murder him?


Georgia, you know.
Young black male with a black and white hoodie.

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19-05-2016, 05:42 PM
RE: I came home to find someone breaking into my home!
(19-05-2016 03:02 PM)Full Circle Wrote:  I have to say I’m really surprised that you entered before calling the police.
You will sleep better from here on out because you didn’t shoot the boy, but man you could have avoided the whole thing by calling in the break in and waiting outside. So much could have gone wrong.
Yeah. You are right. I was in denial a little bit. I just assumed it was maintenance who left the door open. Like is said hind sight is 20/20.

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19-05-2016, 05:43 PM
RE: I came home to find someone breaking into my home!
(19-05-2016 03:48 PM)Chas Wrote:  No way am I going to shoot someone who is running away. No

However, I would have called 911 then drawn my pistol in readiness for a possible confrontation. All the guns in the house are locked up.
I don't think I would enter the house. Consider

As the police approached, I would holster the pistol.
I agree. However, the only gun in the house was in the bedroom and he was in it. But yes, I should have called the police before I entered.

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19-05-2016, 07:18 PM
RE: I came home to find someone breaking into my home!
So, he was looking under the bed which is where you keep your gun?
This kid obviously got shit scared (literally). It sounds to me like it could have gone very differently if you'd come in 5 seconds later and he had the gun in his hand.

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19-05-2016, 07:31 PM
RE: I came home to find someone breaking into my home!
Dude, glad nothing crazy happened. 2 months ago, my coworker was in his house when several boys/men kicked down his door and proceeded to trash and loot the place. He hid in a closet with his laptop and his phone and started calling the police, then one of the men/boys opened the door and saw him. They stared at each other, both speechless and in shock. Then the man/boy yelled to his friends to RUN. So they took what they had and left. My coworker just happened to be working at home because his plans to do something with the family that day fell through. Normally nobody would be home at that time, so it's obvious they had scouted out his house.

The thing is, he recently had his first baby not even a year ago. So the concept of not being safe in his house shook him up. He said he was considering getting a gun.

I'm extremely anti-gun, and in Washington state it's actually very uncommon to hear anybody even mention firearms. We talked briefly about it but ultimately I said only he can choose what is best for him. I don't know what he chose.

Regarding your question "will people shoot if they get a chance?" I have read many say they would. Just seeing a stranger in their house is enough incentive to use lethal force. Obviously I disagree.

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19-05-2016, 07:46 PM
RE: I came home to find someone breaking into my home!
(19-05-2016 07:31 PM)Adrianime Wrote:  Dude, glad nothing crazy happened. 2 months ago, my coworker was in his house when several boys/men kicked down his door and proceeded to trash and loot the place. He hid in a closet with his laptop and his phone and started calling the police, then one of the men/boys opened the door and saw him. They stared at each other, both speechless and in shock. Then the man/boy yelled to his friends to RUN. So they took what they had and left. My coworker just happened to be working at home because his plans to do something with the family that day fell through. Normally nobody would be home at that time, so it's obvious they had scouted out his house.

The thing is, he recently had his first baby not even a year ago. So the concept of not being safe in his house shook him up. He said he was considering getting a gun.

I'm extremely anti-gun, and in Washington state it's actually very uncommon to hear anybody even mention firearms. We talked briefly about it but ultimately I said only he can choose what is best for him. I don't know what he chose.

Regarding your question "will people shoot if they get a chance?" I have read many say they would. Just seeing a stranger in their house is enough incentive to use lethal force. Obviously I disagree.

...in which case you may be a witness to your own murder.
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19-05-2016, 08:00 PM
RE: I came home to find someone breaking into my home!
You should've held him at gunpoint and explained Ezekiel 25:17.



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19-05-2016, 08:01 PM
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(19-05-2016 07:46 PM)Fireball Wrote:  
(19-05-2016 07:31 PM)Adrianime Wrote:  Dude, glad nothing crazy happened. 2 months ago, my coworker was in his house when several boys/men kicked down his door and proceeded to trash and loot the place. He hid in a closet with his laptop and his phone and started calling the police, then one of the men/boys opened the door and saw him. They stared at each other, both speechless and in shock. Then the man/boy yelled to his friends to RUN. So they took what they had and left. My coworker just happened to be working at home because his plans to do something with the family that day fell through. Normally nobody would be home at that time, so it's obvious they had scouted out his house.

The thing is, he recently had his first baby not even a year ago. So the concept of not being safe in his house shook him up. He said he was considering getting a gun.

I'm extremely anti-gun, and in Washington state it's actually very uncommon to hear anybody even mention firearms. We talked briefly about it but ultimately I said only he can choose what is best for him. I don't know what he chose.

Regarding your question "will people shoot if they get a chance?" I have read many say they would. Just seeing a stranger in their house is enough incentive to use lethal force. Obviously I disagree.

...in which case you may be a witness to your own murder.
Not our problem.

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19-05-2016, 08:26 PM (This post was last modified: 19-05-2016 08:43 PM by Anjele.)
RE: I came home to find someone breaking into my home!
(19-05-2016 09:51 AM)jason_delisle Wrote:  A few weeks ago I came home to find my garage door half way open and the door leading into the house ajar. I walked inside to find someone in my bedroom. Looking back at it now, I realize that it was rather stupid to enter the house. I should have called the police. However, I was in a state of denial because I live in a community where a housing company periodically sends workers to perform maintenance. Normally I receive a note on the door a week or so prior to the maintenance to let me know ahead of time. I was out of town for a few days prior so I just assumed I missed the memo.

The bedroom door was cracked open and to my astonishment, I found a boy who looked no more that 16 years old looking under my bed and I could plainly see that he was unarmed. So I opened the door to confront him. When the boy saw me he instantly froze in fear. He began to slowly walk towards me because I was the only thing standing between him and the exit and said "I was looking for my cell phone". When he got within arms distance from me, I shoved him to the ground and told him to stay still. I then reached under the bed where he was looking because that is where I keep my Sig Sauer P226 mk25 and I wanted to make sure he did not get to it. As soon as he saw me with a gun in my hand and the door exposed, he ran out of the house...as you would expect.

Although this whole event was shocking, that is not what is bothering me right now. What is bothering me is the fact that Georgia is a "King of the Castle " state so many people told me that I should have "shot first and asked questions later". It didn't matter that I would be shooting an unarmed kid in the back as he was running away because he was in my home!

This is the issue I have. I know many people swear that they would never murder someone in cold blood. However, given the right circumstances, I believe that many people would be willing to murder a kid as long as they knew they would not be held legally responsible for it. What do you think?

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I see getting the gun so that he didn't get it as a good move. I agree that you should have called 911 but then what if he would have gotten the gun, and possibly used it on you or some one else? I think that you responded in a way that isn't unexpected or unreasonable in the situation at hand.

It was an unexpected and frightening situation. It's not like you got the gun and shot the kid. You kept him from getting the gun. You kept him from causing more harm to yourself or others.

Seems to me that you showed proper restraint.

But if there's ever a next time, call 911 and don't enter the house.

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