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30-07-2017, 08:36 AM
RE: I didn't know The Left was so evil.
(30-07-2017 08:16 AM)I Dream of Electric Sheep Wrote:  I've never heard the argument from the left that peadophilia should be accepted. I've never heard anyone argue that peadphilia is a sexuality (it might me) sex with children must be accepted.

I've heard, as has been stated above, thouse that reject equal marriage using the slippery slope argument. Stating that if you accepted homosexuality you must accept pedophilia, thus child rape! This is usually argued by people that don't understand what consent means or requires.

Just because a sexuality is a sexuality it does not follow that consent no longer applies.
The language of the right is mostly short-cuts, sweeping generalizations and bald assertions. They're fed the buzz words and catch phrases and it saves them from thinking about anything.
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30-07-2017, 08:36 AM
RE: I didn't know The Left was so evil.
(30-07-2017 08:11 AM)cactus Wrote:  What is a "left"?

For some "left" is this even years after event:

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Others prefer to remember it like this:

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Yet another group of people see "left" like this:

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"Left" that I remember was fond of pictures like this (and saying that it would want to have grace of faith):

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Left that I want to see would be proud of Marx words - The foundation of irreligious criticism is: Man makes religion, religion does not make man. Religion is, indeed, the self-consciousness and self-esteem of man who has either not yet won through to himself, or has already lost himself again. But man is no abstract being squatting outside the world. Man is the world of man – state, society. This state and this society produce religion, which is an inverted consciousness of the world, because they are an inverted world. Religion is the general theory of this world, its encyclopaedic compendium, its logic in popular form, its spiritual point d’honneur, its enthusiasm, its moral sanction, its solemn complement, and its universal basis of consolation and justification. It is the fantastic realization of the human essence since the human essence has not acquired any true reality. The struggle against religion is, therefore, indirectly the struggle against that world whose spiritual aroma is religion.

Religious suffering is, at one and the same time, the expression of real suffering and a protest against real suffering. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people.

The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is the demand for their real happiness. To call on them to give up their illusions about their condition is to call on them to give up a condition that requires illusions. The criticism of religion is, therefore, in embryo, the criticism of that vale of tears of which religion is the halo

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30-07-2017, 10:54 AM
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I heard this slippery slope shit in every sermon about homosexuality in church.
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30-07-2017, 11:44 AM
RE: I didn't know The Left was so evil.
(30-07-2017 08:36 AM)Gawdzilla Wrote:  The language of the right is mostly short-cuts, sweeping generalizations and bald assertions. They're fed the buzz words and catch phrases and it saves them from thinking about anything.

It's not only the language. It's the agenda to criminalize being gay. Or at the very lest, to incite disgust by drawing these comparisons.

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30-07-2017, 12:50 PM
RE: I didn't know The Left was so evil.
So it seems at least one person thinks "left" = communism. It doesn't. I'm on the left as is the political party I'm a member of, the Scottish Green Party, and we're democratic socialists. AKA not stalinists or communists.
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30-07-2017, 12:52 PM
RE: I didn't know The Left was so evil.
It's not possible for a pedophile not to be a monster in any situation! Everything is black and white! EVERYTHING! If you believe there are pedophiles who are not monsters, YOU ARE A PEDOPHILIA APOLOGIST!

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30-07-2017, 01:20 PM (This post was last modified: 30-07-2017 01:51 PM by epronovost.)
RE: I didn't know The Left was so evil.
Ironic, I have read pedophile apologetic from the fringe right wing movement, more specifically, right wing libertarian who claim that the age of consent is an imposition of the governement on someone sexuality. I have heard others trying to make a difference between pedophilia which is wrong and adoniphilia, sex with teenagers (especially the 14 to 18 good looking female variety) which is much more acceptable in the yes of many. Their intent is usually making statutory rape laws obsolete. Most, if not all of my personnal experience with pedophile apologetics are with the Right wing. There is probably a Left wing stance on this. I suppose that once upon a time NAMBLA might have been considered a Left wing group (now they are mostly a fixture and a bad joke). All in all, pedophile apologia, like many other subject, isn't tied to a ''single side'' on the political spectrum. Using pedophile apologia as a smear is purely a crude ad hominem tactic.

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30-07-2017, 01:39 PM
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(30-07-2017 01:20 PM)epronovost Wrote:  Ironic, I have read pedophile apologetic from the fringe right wing movement, more specifically, right wing libertarian who claim that the age of consent is an imposition of the governement on someone sexuality. I have heard others trying to make a difference between pedophilia which is wrong and adoniphilia, sex with teenagers (especially the 14 to 18 good looking female variety) which is much more acceptable in the yes of many. Their intent is usually making statutory rape laws obsolete. Most, if not all of my personnal experience with pedophile apologetics are with the Right wing. There is probably a Left wing stance on this. I suppose that once upon a time NAMBLA might have been considered a Left wing group (now they are mostly a fixture and a bad joke). All in all, pedophile apologia, like many other subject, isn't tied to a ''single side'' on the political spectrum. Using as a smear is purely a crude ad hominem tactic.

Milo Yiannopoulos recenly had this to say about the idea of consent:

Quote:Breitbart News editor Milo Yiannopoulos says sex between adult men and 13 year-old boys is OK as long as the boy’s sexual organs are “mature.” He would also like to thank a certain Catholic priest for teaching him to “give such good head” when Yiannopoulos was a child.

All documented on a new video from the Drunken Peasants podcast, which has left American Conservative Union chairman Matt Schlapp in a, shall we say, touchy position.

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30-07-2017, 04:02 PM
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(30-07-2017 12:50 PM)I Dream of Electric Sheep Wrote:  So it seems at least one person thinks "left" = communism.

Perhaps you missed words like "for some" or "others"?

Also communism never was - it was really existing socialism in Soviet Union which stopped chasing Marx dream after Khrushchev was deposed.

Quote:It doesn't. I'm on the left as is the political party I'm a member of, the Scottish Green Party, and we're democratic socialists. AKA not stalinists or communists.

Thanks for the info. Reading Kołakowski, Walicki and Malia was less informative than your post, I thought all lefties are communists Rolleyes

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30-07-2017, 08:25 PM
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(30-07-2017 01:39 PM)GenesisNemesis Wrote:  
(30-07-2017 01:20 PM)epronovost Wrote:  Ironic, I have read pedophile apologetic from the fringe right wing movement, more specifically, right wing libertarian who claim that the age of consent is an imposition of the governement on someone sexuality. I have heard others trying to make a difference between pedophilia which is wrong and adoniphilia, sex with teenagers (especially the 14 to 18 good looking female variety) which is much more acceptable in the yes of many. Their intent is usually making statutory rape laws obsolete. Most, if not all of my personnal experience with pedophile apologetics are with the Right wing. There is probably a Left wing stance on this. I suppose that once upon a time NAMBLA might have been considered a Left wing group (now they are mostly a fixture and a bad joke). All in all, pedophile apologia, like many other subject, isn't tied to a ''single side'' on the political spectrum. Using as a smear is purely a crude ad hominem tactic.

Milo Yiannopoulos recenly had this to say about the idea of consent:

Quote:Breitbart News editor Milo Yiannopoulos says sex between adult men and 13 year-old boys is OK as long as the boy’s sexual organs are “mature.” He would also like to thank a certain Catholic priest for teaching him to “give such good head” when Yiannopoulos was a child.

All documented on a new video from the Drunken Peasants podcast, which has left American Conservative Union chairman Matt Schlapp in a, shall we say, touchy position.

I "liked" your post, but vehemently disagree with Yiannopoulos' position. Dodgy NAMBLA is another kettle of dicks. They should be hunted down and incarcerated, every one.
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