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05-04-2012, 09:37 AM
RE: I don't want to "read" a movie!
I get impressed when people have read books.
I come across so few of them these days.

But for reals the book is usually better. Unless you can distinguish the two as completely different entities which is hard after so much time has been invested reason the original.

I usually go in telling myself they will have to make concessions for te change in format. That way I can appreciate the movie for what it is.

Sometimes I am sorely disappointed in changes because they make no sense in any way.

Like the lord of the rings movies. Really just one thing bugged me.

Going all the way back to faramirs home. I made no sense. Wasn't in the book. And would have made Sam and frodo not make it to the top of mount doom in time. So I hate them now.

But then there's something like blade runner. I love the movie. It's great. I like the book and prefer the books title. Otherwise I prefer the movie. It's better.

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05-04-2012, 09:40 AM
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(05-04-2012 09:37 AM)lucradis Wrote:  I get impressed when people have read books.
I come across so few of them these days.

But for reals the book is usually better. Unless you can distinguish the two as completely different entities which is hard after so much time has been invested reason the original.

I usually go in telling myself they will have to make concessions for te change in format. That way I can appreciate the movie for what it is.

Sometimes I am sorely disappointed in changes because they make no sense in any way.

Like the lord of the rings movies. Really just one thing bugged me.

Going all the way back to faramirs home. I made no sense. Wasn't in the book. And would have made Sam and frodo not make it to the top of mount doom in time. So I hate them now.

But then there's something like blade runner. I love the movie. It's great. I like the book and prefer the books title. Otherwise I prefer the movie. It's better.
But let's not ignore the fact that most people say that to sound intelligent and read.

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05-04-2012, 10:02 AM
RE: I don't want to "read" a movie!
(05-04-2012 07:16 AM)germanyt Wrote:  
(05-04-2012 12:44 AM)Quidsane Wrote:  Haha, I'm American and I find that most American movies are bad! Big Grin
Then most foreign films probably are too. You just don't pay attention to any that aren't recommended to you. So you end up only seeing mostly good ones.

Of course most foreign films are bad. Most films are bad.
Did I say anything to the contrary? Huh

"You just don't pay attention to any that aren't recommended to you."

If the above quote is any indication, your deductive reasoning skills are shit. Big Grin
WOW. What a baseless assumption you've made here, dripping with condescension.
No, asshole, I'm a cinephile. Complete movie freak. I watch hundreds of movies
every year (some of which are recommendations!), and a good 90% of them are crap.

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05-04-2012, 10:12 AM
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Oh I agree GT. Most things people say seem to be for the sole purpose of asserting some form of dominance over everyone else.

I'm no different. I am the only one who knows what a good B movie is. All others are hipsters.

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05-04-2012, 10:29 AM (This post was last modified: 05-04-2012 11:07 AM by germanyt.)
RE: I don't want to "read" a movie!
(05-04-2012 10:02 AM)Quidsane Wrote:  
(05-04-2012 07:16 AM)germanyt Wrote:  Then most foreign films probably are too. You just don't pay attention to any that aren't recommended to you. So you end up only seeing mostly good ones.

Of course most foreign films are bad. Most films are bad.
Did I say anything to the contrary? Huh

"You just don't pay attention to any that aren't recommended to you."

If the above quote is any indication, your deductive reasoning skills are shit. Big Grin
WOW. What a baseless assumption you've made here, dripping with condescension.
No, asshole, I'm a cinephile. Complete movie freak. I watch hundreds of movies
every year (some of which are recommendations!), and a good 90% of them are crap.


*post didn't contribute any to the topic*

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05-04-2012, 10:48 AM
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Thanks for the explanation, sweetie. Didn't catch the inferred collective you.
For clarification, what I was saying was that there are plenty of foreign films that are perfectly fine
on their own and don't need to be remade because American audiences don't like to read subtitles.
The examples I gave were films that haven't been remade (yet).

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05-04-2012, 11:06 AM
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(05-04-2012 10:48 AM)Quidsane Wrote:  Thanks for the explanation, sweetie. Didn't catch the inferred collective you.
For clarification, what I was saying was that there are plenty of foreign films that are perfectly fine
on their own and don't need to be remade because American audiences don't like to read subtitles.
The examples I gave were films that haven't been remade (yet).
I apologize for being harsh. I wasn't making assumptions about you. Just that if it appears as though foreign movies are generally better it's probably because people aren't as exposed to the broad selection of foreign films out there. I don't mind them at all. I own a dozen or so foreign movies. Crouching Tiger, a Japanese film call Fireworks, Downfall (German), etc. I personally haven't run across a bunch of bad foreign movies because I don't choose to watch them unless I've read good things about.

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05-04-2012, 12:33 PM
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(05-04-2012 11:06 AM)germanyt Wrote:  I personally haven't run across a bunch of bad foreign movies because I don't choose to watch them unless I've read good things about.

Fair enough. I see your point.
There are people out there who think all foreign films are good or "better".
Bad acting, bad dialogue, incoherent or lame plotlines, etc. affect movies worldwide... Big Grin

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05-04-2012, 01:54 PM
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(05-04-2012 07:16 AM)germanyt Wrote:  
(05-04-2012 12:44 AM)Quidsane Wrote:  Haha, I'm American and I find that most American movies are bad! Big Grin
Then most foreign films probably are too. You just don't pay attention to any that aren't recommended to you. So you end up only seeing mostly good ones.

(05-04-2012 01:38 AM)Caveman Wrote:  How about Inglourious Basterds... People walked out of that too...
You know what's done in half of Europe? Re-dubbing. French and germans retreat everything, it's awful.
They even redub porn.
The new one with Brad Pitt? That was a pretty cool movie I thought. A bit like Valkyrie in that it's completely inaccurate but still a good movie.

Yeah, it wasn't meant to be accurate. It was meant as Tarantino's way of showing that film is a strong weapon, powerfull enough to win wars.
And it was just ridiculously entertaining!

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05-04-2012, 10:23 PM
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As always, Filox will be the one to explain all things, since I am the Allknowing. Let me educate you... Big Grin

For you that do not know I am NOT an American, I am from Croatia, don't let my perfect English fool you, I never visited USA, I learned it all from school and TV. Mostly TV and Internet. I speak it as good as I write it, if not better.

IF Croatia was making remakes of the foreign movies, I would not know English language and the world would be full of movies like Turkeys Superman, or Indian Matrix, something is just wrong there. Smile

Now, as for Americanizing the movies, not such a bad thing, since you Americans have tons of money, specially Hollywood, so the movies you make are rather good, with the exception of Taxi with Queen Latifah, the people responsible for that should be killed, all of them. But every time I've seen something like that, the original was better. There is a new movie now, The Hunger Games, which is a pure copy of Battle Royale. It can never be as good as Battle Royale, it can only be Battle Royale with Cheese.

The Ring. Scary shit. But have you seen the Japanese version? Jesus Christ In Haven, USA version looks like Pokemon compared to Japanese. Smile

My opinion is that Hollywood can spend money and time on new things, not remakes of remakes, of remakes...

Somebody mentioned dubbing movies. Now that is truly a blasphemy and sacrilege. First of all, "a movie" has 2 important parts, VIDEO and AUDIO. If you completely change the AUDIO part, that means you have just changed 50% of the movie, thus making that movie something else. If I were to make a movie, I would protect it by any means necessary, so that if anyone were to change it (like dubbing) I would sue his ass.

Subtitles are the only way to watch original foreign movie, without loosing the 50% of the movie. If someone can not follow that, they have serious attention disorder. Or dyslexia. Unfortunately, people like that give a bad name to the rest of Americans. Making a whole "new" movie, just for that dyslexic part of the audience is stupid and a waste of money.

@ Caveman

I loved Inglorious bastards, great movie. As for the France and Germany, because of their dubbing, people there never heard the original voice of Cartman, for example. They loose all the cool lines as well, since it is impossible to translate most of the phrases. I know some people from France that do not know a single word of English, their explanation is that they do not need it. ALL the movies are dubbed, the whole Internet is translated a long time ago, TV, adds, everything is in French, so they really do not need it.

While we in Croatia use stupid subtitles and thus all of us know at least basics of English language, Most of us know even Spanish, thanks to Spanish soap-tv-shows, like Esmeralda, or Rosa Salvaje.

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