I had my first "Papa Bear" moment.
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15-04-2012, 08:35 AM
RE: I had my first "Papa Bear" moment.
(14-04-2012 09:00 PM)Chas Wrote:  The fault lies squarely on kc.

Really. You'd think the pre-ordained guy would know this kinda stuff. Tongue

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15-04-2012, 08:41 AM
RE: I had my first "Papa Bear" moment.
Here's my take on this. (for the record, I am a dog trainer by trade, so I ain't talkin out my ass on this one). KC, my friend, you've made a couple mistakes here. First, you've accidentally given your kid the impression that when he is told not to do something, it is a mere suggestion. That's a parenting thing, so I'll leave that alone.

Second mistake is how you handled the dog, but not just tossing it around (which is unacceptable, but if I dwell on that nothing can be gained. Suffice to say, it was indeed abusive, but luckily for you the dog doesn't think anything of it anymore)

The way to handle this from a training perspective, is to actually discipline the dog for the mistake. Before everyone starts freaking out that it was an accident, and the dog didn't do anything wrong, he was provoked, bla bla bla.....stop and think. Regardless of what the dog intended, it's in kings best interest to not even have the urge to retaliate, since that could result in him being put down. King needs to think that your son is dominant over him within the pack, and that gives KC jr. The right to do what ever he wants to king. KC jr needs to learn that he doesn't own the dog. At that age, the dog needs to be thought of as your possession, and one that he will be disciplined for interacting with when he doesn't have permission. There are some very effective techniques for teaching your dog not to react with it's mouth like king did in this situation. I'll gladly tell you some ideas if you want to learn.

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17-04-2012, 12:13 AM
RE: I had my first "Papa Bear" moment.
This thread reminds me of a similar sad tale from 13th century Wales


GELERT'S GRAVE

IN THE 13TH CENTURY, LLYWELYN, PRINCE OF NORTH WALES, HAD A PALACE AT BEDDGELERT. ONE DAY HE WENT HUNTING WITHOUT GELERT "THE FAITHFUL HOUND" WHO WAS UNACCOUNTABLY ABSENT. ON LLYWELYN'S RETURN, THE TRUANT STAINED AND SMEARED WITH BLOOD, JOYFULLY SPRANG TO MEET HIS MASTER. THE PRINCE ALARMED HASTENED TO FIND HIS SON, AND SAW THE INFANT'S COT EMPTY, THE BEDCLOTHES AND FLOOR COVERED WITH BLOOD. THE FRANTIC FATHER PLUNGED THE SWORD INTO THE HOUND'S SIDE THINKING IT HAD KILLED HIS HEIR. THE DOG'S DYING YELL WAS ANSWERED BY A CHILD'S CRY. LLYWELYN SEARCHED AND DISCOVERED HIS BOY UNHARMED BUT NEAR BY LAY THE BODY OF A MIGHTY WOLF WHICH GELERT HAD SLAIN, THE PRINCE FILLED WITH REMORSE IS SAID NEVER TO HAVE SMILED AGAIN. HE BURIED GELERT HERE. THE SPOT IS CALLED BEDDGELERT.

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17-04-2012, 07:41 AM
RE: I had my first "Papa Bear" moment.
I always saw you as more of a 'mama grizzly'.

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