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I have some proof here that there's no afterlife
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28-09-2013, 02:10 AM
I have some proof here that there's no afterlife
> a study that only 4% of people having near death experiences

http://link.springer.com/article/10.1023...078#page-1


> another study on people who had heart attacks were in death like coma without a working heart and most of them didn't have near death experiences, almost all of them turned to the a rationalist-materialist

http://www.pentathon.talktalk.net/lancet.pdf


> there is the option that near death experiences are just hormonally induced accidental lucid dreams

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucid_dream
http://www.lucidity.com/NL32.OBEandLD.html
http://lnco.epfl.ch/files/content/sites/...rience.pdf


> or just rare hallucinations induced by oxygen depravation

http://www.scientificamerican.com/articl...oof-heaven


> and in some case it's just people looking for attention

http://www.thelancet.com/journals/uniden...L/abstract


> there is an experiment in which scientist induced near death experiences in living people using a magnetic beam

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCVzz96zKA0[/align]
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28-09-2013, 06:48 PM
RE: I have some proof here that there's no afterlife
Could be a purely chemical reaction, then more deeply, our monad/soul/atman could be partially a very minor component of a super high ever evolving cosmic consciousness that very largely passes our secular reasoning capacity; one that can only be related to by a sense of awe, intuition, hope, and prayer.Tongue


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28-09-2013, 07:05 PM
RE: I have some proof here that there's no afterlife
We already know NDE's are only chemical release mechanisms.
They have been recently explained.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2013/08/...xperiences
Any apparent "link" between unexplained phenomena and religious beliefs is nothing more than another example of "god of the gaps" arguments.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_of_the_gaps fallacy.

Faith is not about "proofs", either for or against.
It's the willing assent to abandon reason.
The question is, at what point does one abandon reason ?
For some it's never, for some it damn quick.
Once you assent to the idea you are better off abandoning reason, no amount of "proof" will/can do anything to help you.

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28-09-2013, 07:11 PM
RE: I have some proof here that there's no afterlife
Of course there is an afterlife.

I can say with 100% certainty, based what I have witnessed and what I believe in my heart, that consciousness will continue after I die.












Just, not mine.

:shrug:

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28-09-2013, 07:19 PM
RE: I have some proof here that there's no afterlife
(28-09-2013 07:11 PM)DLJ Wrote:  Of course there is an afterlife.

I can say with 100% certainty, based what I have witnessed and what I believe in my heart, that consciousness will continue after I die.
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Sorry DLJ, IN MY EXCITEMENT i AGAIN MESSED UPBlush




Just, not mine.

:shrug:

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28-09-2013, 07:26 PM
RE: I have some proof here that there's no afterlife
(28-09-2013 07:19 PM)Mr Woof Wrote:  
(28-09-2013 07:11 PM)DLJ Wrote:  Of course there is an afterlife.

I can say with 100% certainty, based what I have witnessed and what I believe in my heart, that consciousness will continue after I die.
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'There are eight good proofs for reincarnation. One of these is sex. The other seven are unimportant'[/size]...............................................
[size=x-small]Sorry forget the source.

Sorry DLJ, IN MY EXCITEMENT i AGAIN MESSED UPBlush Laughat

Just, not mine.

:shrug:

I bet you say that to all the girls.

(you need to change your sig from 'flying placidly' to 'plying flaccidly')

ps Please don't edit your post. There is some lovely comedy in there.

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28-09-2013, 08:25 PM
RE: I have some proof here that there's no afterlife
(28-09-2013 07:19 PM)Mr Woof Wrote:  
(28-09-2013 07:11 PM)DLJ Wrote:  Of course there is an afterlife.

I can say with 100% certainty, based what I have witnessed and what I believe in my heart, that consciousness will continue after I die.
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'There are eight good proofs for reincarnation. One of these is sex. The other seven are unimportant'[/size]...............................................
[size=x-small]Sorry forget the source.




Sorry DLJ, IN MY EXCITEMENT i AGAIN MESSED UPBlush




Just, not mine.

:shrug:

Da fuq, Woof?

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29-09-2013, 01:56 AM
RE: I have some proof here that there's no afterlife
thank you for your honest and unbiased opinion


for your interest I present to you the atheists of reddit who are nothing but posers, they have thrashed me into oblivion

http://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/comments...afterlife/


the catholics have obviously deleted the thread

http://www.reddit.com/r/Christianity/com...afterlife/


and the general religion crew is just a bunch of pussies bickering amongst each other throwing around haughty expressions

http://www.reddit.com/r/religion/comment...ght_be_no/
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29-09-2013, 05:18 AM
RE: I have some proof here that there's no afterlife
We don't need proof there is NO afterlife, if anyone wants to argue this matter , they need to present evidence that there IS afterlife.

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29-09-2013, 06:37 AM
RE: I have some proof here that there's no afterlife
That is not proof, it is evidence. The two are not the same.

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