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31-05-2017, 06:07 PM (This post was last modified: 31-05-2017 06:14 PM by unfogged.)
RE: I'm not a Christian anymore, yet I'm not an Athiest
(31-05-2017 06:04 PM)DogLover12347 Wrote:  
(31-05-2017 05:40 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  Not good enough. You didn't answer the question. There is no past and no future in a timeless environment, which is what theology says is it.

You anthropomorphism is showing. Why should a god be like a person ?
You don't believe in time?

That whooshing sound was the point flying over your head....

in your own words

(30-05-2017 06:06 PM)DogLover12347 Wrote:  And since nothing that exists is capable of being eternal, nothing should exist.

Therefore god either does not exist or is not eternal

(30-05-2017 06:19 PM)DogLover12347 Wrote:  Something has to be eternal or else nothing would exist.

So which is it? Nothing that exists can be eternal or something eternal has to exist?

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31-05-2017, 06:27 PM
RE: I'm not a Christian anymore, yet I'm not an Athiest
(31-05-2017 05:56 PM)DogLover12347 Wrote:  
(31-05-2017 04:37 PM)adey67 Wrote:  You were likely the victim of warm or hot reading as well as cold reading, did you pay
by debit/credit card by any chance ? Did you give
your full name and location, are you on social media ? There are no such things as spirits and no such thing a real psychics, I suggest
you visit the bad psychics website where you will find articles and explanations on how psychics
con people, educate yourself. Drinking Beverage


I only told them my name is Jennifer C I paid with debit and there is no mention of my grandmother in any of my social media
accounts.
I'm still waiting for my cold reading by the way
I don't know how to do that which is why I suggested the bad psychics website the guy there is an expert on how its done ask him and he'll tell you how you were conned.
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31-05-2017, 06:34 PM
RE: I'm not a Christian anymore, yet I'm not an Athiest
I sense much hatred in this thread.

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31-05-2017, 06:36 PM
RE: I'm not a Christian anymore, yet I'm not an Athiest
(31-05-2017 05:51 AM)DogLover12347 Wrote:  I have paranoia because of schizophrenia

You have my sincerest condolences. I lost a brother to paranoid schizophrenia. It is a horrifying disease.

You seem like a decent sort so let me explain how your psychic worked.

Back in the bad old days psychics had to rely on cold readings with the occasional helpful clue provided by the mark. Please don't give the knee-jerk "She couldn't have done a cold reading, I didn't allow it..." A proper cold reading requires zero input from you. It's based on facts that are common to the majority of their target audience.

The bit about your grandmother is classic cold reading. Almost everybody's grandmother has a funny, high-pitched laugh. In general, women have higher-pitched voices than men. Laughter is higher-pitched than your speaking voice. As your vocal cords age your voice becomes distorted and sounds funny, especially to small children who are forming their impressions of their grandparents.

Telling you that your grandmother had a funny high-pitched laugh was pretty much a sure thing. It sounds amazing because she couldn't have possibly known your grandmother and it hits you deep in your emotions. It's a nasty, below the belt shot and I hope that something truly dreadful happens to your "psychic" for it.

Now let's meet the modern psychic. Most are the old-fashioned psychics because their marks are lazy, uneducated, credulous and want to believe. A vague cold reading suffices for these.

A few have gone upscale though. These are actually teams. The one you spoke with was the charismatic partner and is almost invariably a woman. Women tend to be better with communication, emotions and establishing trust. They're also easier to underestimate. The silent partner was likely a geeky little fellow in front of a computer monitor.

You thought that you didn't give them any information but you called them. CallerID plugs your name and number into a search engine that starts spitting out the most fascinating facts about you. Did you pay by credit card? If you did then your identity was theirs. Plug that into a social media search and you'd be amazed how accurate the spirits get. The sneaky part is that they won't simply hit you with stuff from your Facebook page. That might seem a little too familiar and not astonishing enough. They'll check your friends list and scour the pages of your friends and family. Using that they can feed you all sorts of family gossip that you never knew about.

Meanwhile, you've started talking and, unbeknown to you, your every word is being fed into a voice stress analysis program. They can see your emotional responses much more clearly than trying to read your face. They have you hooked into a polygraph and are reading your life story off the net. Throw in the occasional surefire cold reading to fill a gap and make it sound even more miraculous. You think it's supernatural because you can't see the tech that they have you wired into but it's no more mysterious than the words on this page.

The worst part is that they prey on the vulnerable. Those who, like you, have suffered a loss and want answers. I'm sorry that they did that to you.

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31-05-2017, 06:44 PM
RE: I'm not a Christian anymore, yet I'm not an Athiest
(31-05-2017 06:04 PM)DogLover12347 Wrote:  
(31-05-2017 05:40 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  Not good enough. You didn't answer the question. There is no past and no future in a timeless environment, which is what theology says is it.

You anthropomorphism is showing. Why should a god be like a person ?
You don't believe in time?

Wow. You really don't get it do you ?
Space-time exists in THIS universe, only, as far as we know.
Presuming that a deity also exists in that environment is probably THE most rookie mistake anyone could possibly make.

Go get yourself an education.

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31-05-2017, 06:47 PM
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(31-05-2017 06:34 PM)neurotibotical Wrote:  I sense much hatred in this thread.

I suspect you might be mistaking hatred for frustration ...on both ends of the spectrum. DL doesn't understand that many of us have been down this road many times, the rest of us want her to understand the difference between "facts/evidence" and "assertions."

Vicious circle, but I doubt anyone wishes malice on the other, much less active hatred.
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31-05-2017, 06:51 PM
RE: I'm not a Christian anymore, yet I'm not an Athiest
(31-05-2017 06:05 PM)unfogged Wrote:  
(31-05-2017 05:56 PM)DogLover12347 Wrote:  I'm still waiting for my cold reading by the way

You've already had one. It cost you $250. Do some research on the subject; we aren't scam
artists practiced in the art of doing cold readings. We aren't talking to you on the phone where we can hear inflections, pauses, and other clues to your reactions. You keep saying that you did not give any clues and we keep
telling you that we don't believe that so this is going nowhere.

Maybe you've found the one real psychic in all of history and instead of using their ability to
solve crimes or otherwise benefit humanity they dole out trivial information for a fee by phone... or perhaps you've been snookered and you are too gullible to realize it or too proud to admit it. I know which seems more likely to me.

Can't you see that the way I talk couldn't possibly give her any personal information about myself?
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31-05-2017, 06:54 PM
RE: I'm not a Christian anymore, yet I'm not an Athiest
(31-05-2017 06:07 PM)unfogged Wrote:  
(31-05-2017 06:04 PM)DogLover12347 Wrote:  You don't believe in time?

That whooshing sound was the point flying over your head....

in your own words

(30-05-2017 06:06 PM)DogLover12347 Wrote:  And since nothing that exists is capable of
being eternal, nothing should exist.

Therefore god either does not exist or is not eternal


(30-05-2017 06:19 PM)DogLover12347 Wrote:  Something has to be eternal or else nothing
would exist.

So which is it? Nothing that exists can be eternal or something eternal has to exist?


Something eternal has to exist. I meant in an atheist's world nothing is capable of being eternal
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31-05-2017, 07:00 PM
RE: I'm not a Christian anymore, yet I'm not an Athiest
(31-05-2017 05:56 PM)DogLover12347 Wrote:  I only told them my name is Jennifer C I paid with debit and there is no mention of my grandmother in any of my social media accounts.

Your identity will have been linked to that debit transaction, though CallerID will have taken care of that regardless.

Your grandmother's laugh was an easy cold reading.

Quote:I'm still waiting for my cold reading by the way

Your grandfather was a large but gentle man. He had a peculiar smell but you always found it reassuring. There is always too much cobblestone.

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31-05-2017, 07:06 PM
RE: I'm not a Christian anymore, yet I'm not an Athiest
(31-05-2017 06:51 PM)DogLover12347 Wrote:  Can't you see that the way I talk couldn't possibly give her any personal information about myself?

Voice Stress Analysis

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