I'm not a Christian anymore, yet I'm not an Athiest
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02-06-2017, 09:27 AM
RE: I'm not a Christian anymore, yet I'm not an Athiest
(02-06-2017 09:15 AM)OakTree500 Wrote:  
(02-06-2017 08:12 AM)DogLover12347 Wrote:  Wouldn't you want to meet the one that created you? He's your Father.
Have you seen Prometheus? What if they/him/her/it isn't happy to see us? lol

I liked that movie. Everybody else is like Dodgy and I'm like Angel

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02-06-2017, 11:14 AM (This post was last modified: 02-06-2017 11:21 AM by kim.)
RE: I'm not a Christian anymore, yet I'm not an Athiest
(30-05-2017 04:49 PM)DogLover12347 Wrote:  I stopped becoming a Christian about a year ago when I found out there were contradictions in the Bible. Yet I find it impossible for me to be an atheist when there's too much evidence for the existence of a God. For example, I talked to a psychic from the Forever Family Foundation to be comforted after the death of my dogs and she knew so much about my life and I've never met her before. I'd say she was 90% accurate (they admit they're not all knowing) I just posted this thread to see if anyone at least believed in the possibility of a God.

What does there being a "possibility of a god" have to do with there being charlatans who trick vulnerable people?
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Oh yea, I forgot about religion. Dodgy

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Sorry DogLover, you appear to have lived within such a vacuum of trickery all your life that, you aren't able to distinguish reality from fantasy. When you operate from a foundation of superstition you begin with a fantasy point of view.

Just a heads up: it has never been proven that human beings have the ability to foresee the future or speak with the dead.

From knowing a few things - age, sex, upbringing, proclivity to visit a psychic, etc., - these things say a lot about types of people. There are people who can read these things very well and are very observant when interacting with others.

Think of it this way:
When one gives birth, there are websites and apps that one can keep track of the baby's life and progress. For example, when the baby boy is three weeks old it will do X ... when the baby boy is twenty weeks old it will begin doing Z ... and so on. Is this site "psychic"? Is the app "magic"?

Ever read poetry or listen to song lyrics? There have been times when I've read a poem which expresses an uncannily, exact feeling I've had about something, which I felt to be a highly personal experience.

The same has happened with song lyrics - in fact, there have been songs I've heard that have just been released, which I swear I've heard before! Are these poets and composers "psychic"? Do they write their works for me personally or is their work completely recognizable to all of humanity because they dip into some "collective subconscious"?

It's about patterns and recognizing those patterns in behavior and people ... and knowing what people desire and will accept.

I am sorry you've lost your dogs - it had to have been heartbreaking. Hug

I personally don't care what you want to believe - your life is yours, alone. However, I do hope you can avoid people who make you think they care about you when, they actually only care about you giving them money. Psychics and clergy have a tendency to do this. With your inability to recognize this, you may want to steer clear of them. Shy

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02-06-2017, 11:16 AM
RE: I'm not a Christian anymore, yet I'm not an Athiest
(02-06-2017 08:17 AM)DogLover12347 Wrote:  
(02-06-2017 06:36 AM)kemo boy Wrote:  Almost anything can be found about you with a small amount of info.
I tried looking up my name online and didn't find anything that the psychic could've used. It seems they only have some general information about you

There are plenty of pay sites.
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02-06-2017, 11:28 AM
RE: I'm not a Christian anymore, yet I'm not an Athiest
(02-06-2017 08:12 AM)DogLover12347 Wrote:  
(02-06-2017 05:10 AM)Robvalue Wrote:  This question is still open for dog to answer:

What does it matter if there is a "God"? What practical difference does it make to anything?
Wouldn't you want to meet the one that created you? He's your Father.

And you know this how?
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02-06-2017, 12:01 PM
RE: I'm not a Christian anymore, yet I'm not an Athiest
Having read a few more of your posts throughout the forum DogLover, I see you have only recently begun your "break from religion". This can be a long journey and often a very difficult one.
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(31-05-2017 04:54 AM)DogLover12347 Wrote:  I overcame my grief of losing my dogs by getting new ones that needed me. I wasen't replacing the ones that passed away by any means but my new dogs are a great distraction from my sorrow.

This is very telling about your behavior. No doubt, if you decide to leave christianity, you will not be replacing belief at all. You will simply find another which will be a great distraction from your sorrow at having not been indoctrinated with the "correct" beliefs.

We are indeed creatures of habit. Shy

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02-06-2017, 01:51 PM
RE: I'm not a Christian anymore, yet I'm not an Athiest
Much of this conversation reminds me of how much atheists have in common with (non-fundamentalist forms of) Judaism, at least as Aliza has been teaching it to us. We don't really care what you believe and aren't really interested in a person who says "I am thinking about converting to your beliefs". We DO care about standards of evidence, and skeptical thinking, and whether you treat other people decently and try to make the world better (whether beliefs harm you or others), and how you come to the conclusions you do.

If you look carefully at what we're saying, there's really no one here who cares if you remain a Christian. What tends to bother most of us about beliefs of the "just trust in the Lord and lean not on your own understanding" type is that they deliberately damage your skepticism centers in order to propagate themselves. They teach people that it's bad to be uncertain, that it's bad to skeptically question The Official Truth™ in scripture, and that you're a terrible person deserving of eternal torture if you do. As a result, people with such damaged skeptical "immune systems" tend to be infected by lots of other bad ideas.

We fight against religion not because we want people to adopt our own belief systems, but because once you're outside of a cult, you can see clearly how the cult manages to insinuate itself into the minds of those caught in its web of lies, and we want to expose those lies and free the person trapped inside that web.

I think a book you could really get a lot of use out of, Doglover, is The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark by Carl Sagan. I recommend owning it, but if you just want to read it online, here's the PDF format:

http://www.metaphysicspirit.com/books/Th...0World.pdf

And if that's too much reading for you (as it is for many people), there's an excerpt from it that I think everyone should be required to read before being given a highschool diploma, called "The Fine Art of Baloney Detection":

http://www.inf.fu-berlin.de/lehre/pmo/en...aloney.pdf

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02-06-2017, 01:55 PM
RE: I'm not a Christian anymore, yet I'm not an Athiest
(01-06-2017 02:58 PM)adey67 Wrote:  Ok I think SYZ may have put me on ignore could someone be kind enough to pass the message that I looked into this and it seems I was wrong after all and that I'm sorry thanks.

No problems mate; I didn't put you on ignore. I was just AFK for a while. Smile

I actually would accept that each face of the coin would have a very slightly different mass, but I guess the point was that it wouldn't affect the flip in any way. Thanks for doing the extra research—I couldn't find anything relevant.

I'm a creationist... I believe that man created God.
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02-06-2017, 02:02 PM
RE: I'm not a Christian anymore, yet I'm not an Athiest
(02-06-2017 05:22 AM)Robvalue Wrote:  Oh, I cannot PM him. So either he has them turned off, or I'm on ignore too.

Maybe someone else could try?

Thanks Rob, but I never put people on ignore, or block my PMs. I know in the past I've had this PM blocking issue at various times. Must be some sort of intermittent glitch? Unsure

I'm a creationist... I believe that man created God.
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02-06-2017, 04:57 PM
RE: I'm not a Christian anymore, yet I'm not an Athiest
(02-06-2017 01:55 PM)SYZ Wrote:  
(01-06-2017 02:58 PM)adey67 Wrote:  Ok I think SYZ may have put me on ignore could someone be kind enough to pass the message that I looked into this and it seems I was wrong after all and that I'm sorry thanks.

No problems mate; I didn't put you on ignore. I was just AFK for a while. Smile

I actually would accept that each face of the coin would have a very slightly different mass, but I guess the point was that it wouldn't affect the flip in any way. Thanks for doing the extra research—I couldn't find anything relevant.

Phew, I'm sorry I was petulant bro,
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02-06-2017, 05:36 PM
RE: I'm not a Christian anymore, yet I'm not an Athiest
Everybody should join the Catholic Faith, it's the one true Christianity. Are you ready?
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