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07-07-2016, 06:00 AM
RE: I must leave
You think you've argued well, because it's YOUR argument....

Were you to look at it from another angle -- say from the point of a board's moderator who must keep some order on a board -- you'd likely think quite differently about your view....

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07-07-2016, 06:02 AM
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(07-07-2016 05:24 AM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  
(06-07-2016 07:05 AM)Dom Wrote:  Rule number one is: "Don't be a dick".

You were a dick and went on a neg rep spree. Hence you can't rep anymore. You are lucky you are not standing in the corner wearing a dunce hat and facing the walls.

Your response has nothing to do with my assertion. It is simply a personal attack against me.

The phrase "don't be a dick" is commonly used as an admonition to avoid anti-social or inappropriate behavior. In this case, Dom stated that "rule" and indicated you had broken it. She then gave a concise example of the behavior in question as well as repercussions suffered.

While this was phrased colloquially, it does not rise to the level of "personal attack".

(06-07-2016 12:15 AM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  How can this be a 100% free speech forum when a minority group, the negged repped, are banned from using one of its speech features(the rep system)?

Who ever said that this was a 100% Free Speech forum?

Can you solicit criminal activity?
Can you post pornography?
Can you make threats of personal violence against someone?
Can you plan or conspire to engage in illegal activity?
Can you post someone's personal contact information without consent?


There is no 100% Free Speech in any public arena.
You broke the rules and you suffered the consequences.

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07-07-2016, 06:02 AM
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(07-07-2016 05:51 AM)Anjele Wrote:  So what are the chances that if you could rep people that you would give anyone a positive rep?

100%

There are plenty times when I want to positive rep people and I can't.
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07-07-2016, 06:03 AM
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(07-07-2016 05:48 AM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  In the "Forum Principles and Culture thread" the first sentence is this:

Quote:This forum is based on the principle of allowing people to freely exchange ideas

But the way the rep system is set up, some people can use it to freely exchange ideas and others can't.

For instance, OnlineBiker can make this comment about me on my rep wall:

"Here's another negative, for whining.... Enjoy an even 50...."

But I can't make this comment about him on his rep wall:

"Online biker thinks arguing a point he disagrees with is tantamount to whining"

And you just made a public comment about his post didn't you?

One that remains uncensored, from the looks of it.

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07-07-2016, 06:04 AM
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(07-07-2016 06:00 AM)onlinebiker Wrote:  You think you've argued well, because it's YOUR argument....

Were you to look at it from another angle -- say from the point of a board's moderator who must keep some order on a board -- you'd likely think quite differently about your view....

Its an administrators decision, not a moderators. In any event neither Moms or Stark have touched this subject in this thread so we don't know if they think I argued it well or poorly.
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07-07-2016, 06:07 AM
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(07-07-2016 06:03 AM)Fatbaldhobbit Wrote:  And you just made a public comment about his post didn't you?

One that remains uncensored, from the looks of it.

Yes....it is a public comment. But it is not on his rep wall. It will soon be forgotten. Comments on a rep wall have a lot more staying power.
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07-07-2016, 06:12 AM (This post was last modified: 07-07-2016 06:19 AM by Heywood Jahblome.)
RE: I must leave
(07-07-2016 06:02 AM)Fatbaldhobbit Wrote:  Who ever said that this was a 100% Free Speech forum?

Can you solicit criminal activity?
Can you post pornography?
Can you make threats of personal violence against someone?
Can you plan or conspire to engage in illegal activity?
Can you post someone's personal contact information without consent?


There is no 100% Free Speech in any public arena.
You broke the rules and you suffered the consequences.

If you re-read this thread, you will see we got here because some forum members claimed this is a free speech forum. I then pointed out that it is a free speech for some forum/restricted speech for others.

Yes there are some restrictions on the speech that apply to everyone and I am not talking about those....nobody is. I am criticizing the practice of denying a minority group access to speech features that are available to everyone else and while making the claim the purpose of the site is to freely exchange ideas.
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07-07-2016, 06:44 AM
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(06-07-2016 08:27 PM)Dom Wrote:  The naughty list is for people who have done something that makes it necessary to revoke some privileges.

You enter here and are automatically given all privileges. Doesn't mean they stay yours if you abuse them.

And your whining isn't how to get them back either.

People in jail can't vote. Best thing they can get is time off for good behavior. Whining and grinding on people's nerves isn't good behavior.

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07-07-2016, 06:50 AM
RE: I must leave
(07-07-2016 06:12 AM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  If you re-read this thread, you will see we got here because some forum members claimed this is a free speech forum. I then pointed out that it is a free speech for some forum/restricted speech for others.

Except that you neglected to point out that a) everyone starts out with equal privileges and that b) you lost privileges due to poor behavior.

Most five year old children can understand this. Why is it so difficult for you to grasp?

(07-07-2016 06:12 AM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  Yes there are some restrictions on the speech that apply to everyone and I am not talking about those....nobody is.

You made the claim that this site supposedly claimed 100% Free Speech.

Welcome to Wrongville. Population: You.

(07-07-2016 06:12 AM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  I am criticizing the practice of denying a minority group access to speech features that are available to everyone else and while making the claim the purpose of the site is to freely exchange ideas.

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07-07-2016, 07:12 AM
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(07-07-2016 06:04 AM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  
(07-07-2016 06:00 AM)onlinebiker Wrote:  You think you've argued well, because it's YOUR argument....

Were you to look at it from another angle -- say from the point of a board's moderator who must keep some order on a board -- you'd likely think quite differently about your view....

Its an administrators decision, not a moderators. In any event neither Moms or Stark have touched this subject in this thread so we don't know if they think I argued it well or poorly.

Well hell... I guess I should be nice about it......

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Here's some cheese to go with your whine....

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