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08-07-2016, 06:29 PM
RE: I must leave
(08-07-2016 06:27 PM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  
(08-07-2016 04:52 PM)Anjele Wrote:  People aren't attacked here for being theist.

Negative. Rose is an example of someone who was attacked by someone who thought she was a theist. He didn't even give her a chance.

Are you a mind reader now?

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08-07-2016, 06:36 PM
RE: I must leave
(08-07-2016 06:29 PM)Anjele Wrote:  
(08-07-2016 06:27 PM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  Negative. Rose is an example of someone who was attacked by someone who thought she was a theist. He didn't even give her a chance.

Are you a mind reader now?

Not a mind reader. The attacker published his thoughts and I read them on a computer forum.
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08-07-2016, 06:38 PM
RE: I must leave
(08-07-2016 05:08 PM)ClydeLee Wrote:  More black and white equivalencies? Is that going to keep be your calling card for this argument, because it seems you don't care to make points without the use of exaggerated presumptions. You can be aggressive in opposition and not be fallacious in statements.

A lot of people like KC and Alizia were respected because even when defending their interpretations of biblical texts or points aggressively they actually responded to questions and kept communication ongoing. They aren't the folks often just abandoning a judging response or leaving an open discussion without wanting to seek some communication between it.

Even in that little old thread there you ignored responses right away on the front page and ended it off making some nonsensical or just ignorant of terminology response without looking it up to see it through. You basically ended in an altered version of the classic that's just a theory not a law... not acknowledging there are differing points of distinction in definitions of what a law, theory, effect, and problems are. A philosophical/scientific problem is a thing to itself. Plus saying someone has a problem is different than both those other field study issues. Just like folks can use the term theory in a common usage way.

You don't seem to give 2 shits about what you say, so people don't give a shit about you, while those other even heavy conspiracy, or aggressively agnostic, theist folks across the board can communicate antagonistically or aggressively in topics they make and be repped up still.

I admit I don't respond to everyone or every post. There is a 50 post limit that can be hit pretty easily if I did. Further, some posts are too moronic to bother with a response. Sometimes I don't respond because the poster made a good point and I don't have a retort. Sometimes, I intend to response but never get back to it. DLJ's post in this thread is an example. There is one of me and lots of you.

On the flip side, I make a lot of points that never get a response. For instance I made this point:

Quote:Negged repped people do not have a voice in the aggregated rep of any user. Therefore neg-repped users do not have the same level of speech as the non neg repped users.

No responses to it so far.
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08-07-2016, 06:41 PM (This post was last modified: 08-07-2016 07:09 PM by GirlyMan.)
RE: I must leave
(08-07-2016 06:38 PM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  
Quote:Negged repped people do not have a voice in the aggregated rep of any user. Therefore neg-repped users do not have the same level of speech as the non neg repped users.

No responses to it so far.

My bad.

(08-07-2016 03:43 PM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  Negged repped people do not have a voice in the aggregated rep of any user. Therefore neg-repped users do not have the same level of speech as the non neg repped users.

So? I should give a fuck why?

I can't post nudity so nudists do not enjoy the same level of speech here.
I can't post porn so chronic masturbators do not enjoy the same level of speech here.
I can't talk pedo so pedos do not enjoy the same level of speech here.
I cannot credibly threaten to hunt you down and kill you so psychopaths do not enjoy the same level of speech here.

All you are saying is that assholes by consensus do not enjoy the same level of speech here.

So fucking what?

There a few members around here whose neg rep I do not agree with. You are not one of them.

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08-07-2016, 06:47 PM
RE: I must leave
(08-07-2016 06:41 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(08-07-2016 03:43 PM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  Negged repped people do not have a voice in the aggregated rep of any user. Therefore neg-repped users do not have the same level of speech as the non neg repped users.

So? I should give a fuck why?

Because his trolling doesn't work unless you do.
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08-07-2016, 06:52 PM
RE: I must leave
I guess I will have to spend the weekend going through reps. Anyone I have given positive rep to who hasn't reciprocated will have to be dropped down.

Then everyone who has neg repped me will have to be dropped also.

Then I will have to find my graphing calculator and figure out how to make things really fair...some sort of ratio between number of likes and reps points.

Then I will make a schedule so that I can accomplish all this since I (like others) am limited to how many reps I can give in a 24 hour period.

Perhaps the negative reps first, then removal of positives. Or maybe the other way around. Consider

Off to create a spreadsheet to make sure these are doled out correctly.

Since I can only give or take 1 point at a time I may have to look at likes given and make sure they are fairly doled out.

My weekend is planned. Thumbsup

And KUSA...where's the love man?

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08-07-2016, 06:53 PM
RE: I must leave
(08-07-2016 06:38 PM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  
(08-07-2016 05:08 PM)ClydeLee Wrote:  More black and white equivalencies? Is that going to keep be your calling card for this argument, because it seems you don't care to make points without the use of exaggerated presumptions. You can be aggressive in opposition and not be fallacious in statements.

A lot of people like KC and Alizia were respected because even when defending their interpretations of biblical texts or points aggressively they actually responded to questions and kept communication ongoing. They aren't the folks often just abandoning a judging response or leaving an open discussion without wanting to seek some communication between it.

Even in that little old thread there you ignored responses right away on the front page and ended it off making some nonsensical or just ignorant of terminology response without looking it up to see it through. You basically ended in an altered version of the classic that's just a theory not a law... not acknowledging there are differing points of distinction in definitions of what a law, theory, effect, and problems are. A philosophical/scientific problem is a thing to itself. Plus saying someone has a problem is different than both those other field study issues. Just like folks can use the term theory in a common usage way.

You don't seem to give 2 shits about what you say, so people don't give a shit about you, while those other even heavy conspiracy, or aggressively agnostic, theist folks across the board can communicate antagonistically or aggressively in topics they make and be repped up still.

I admit I don't respond to everyone or every post. There is a 50 post limit that can be hit pretty easily if I did. Further, some posts are too moronic to bother with a response. Sometimes I don't respond because the poster made a good point and I don't have a retort. Sometimes, I intend to response but never get back to it. DLJ's post in this thread is an example. There is one of me and lots of you.

On the flip side, I make a lot of points that never get a response. For instance I made this point:

Quote:Negged repped people do not have a voice in the aggregated rep of any user. Therefore neg-repped users do not have the same level of speech as the non neg repped users.

No responses to it so far.

Not every post has a direct chain but the idea or fundamental query is often able to be responded too...

which is what occurred for your... despite there being "1" of you, you made several posts continuing the same point in that last quote section. Most of those posts were saying that so they were responded too.

I did respond to that point in regards to referring to it as an unargued for assumption... you've just laid it out and laid it out and laid it out in multiple posts and instead of defending it, presumed it true and resorted to black/white bickerings over some perceived Truly free speech forum argument or fairness.
Because without any reason to take it as a valued claim, I'm just stuck to seconding GirlyMan's response.

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08-07-2016, 07:00 PM
RE: I must leave
(08-07-2016 02:57 PM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  The nature of the rep system gives you a tool to help drive away people with controversial positions and the place turns into a circle jerk.

If you think this place is a circle jerk and you're here anyway you either want to join in or you like to watch.

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08-07-2016, 07:18 PM
RE: I must leave
(08-07-2016 02:57 PM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  The nature of the rep system gives you a tool to help drive away people with controversial positions and the place turns into a circle jerk.

To a certain extent, I agree with you here.

I have yet to get any reps nor have I given any. I think the negative rep in the system is flawed in such a way that were I to make my first rep a negative, say Heywood Jahblome, I am quite sure that if Heywood Jahblome were in a position to deliver reps, I would receive a corresponding negative and right from the get go, I would be unable to rep anyone else. eBay had enough issues with the same system and modified it, though, as a seller, not to my liking, but it was improved somewhat.

I do not know how may neg reps you received as retaliation in contrast to responses as in this thread, but if this thread is any example of your postings, maybe you should step back and reexamine your priorities and what this forum is about or should be.

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08-07-2016, 07:37 PM (This post was last modified: 08-07-2016 07:55 PM by Chas.)
RE: I must leave
(08-07-2016 02:57 PM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  
(08-07-2016 01:52 PM)Grasshopper Wrote:  Neither KC nor Aliza has ever struck me as "passive".

Laugh out load

Starting threads about the wife's hair color or a cat doesn't strike me as aggressive.

Has any of those 3 ever started a thread like "Dawkins got it wrong" and argued their position aggressively? You guys claim you welcome controversial positions....but you don't. The nature of the rep system gives you a tool to help drive away people with controversial positions and the place turns into a circle jerk.

Your position on that was not controversial, just wrong - and demonstrated to be so. Drinking Beverage

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