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23-04-2014, 06:49 AM (This post was last modified: 23-04-2014 09:27 AM by living thing.)
I still remember time before the internet
The current year is 45 AI.

I see the internet as one of “our” greatest inventions (although I cannot claim any merit for it, I didn't even know of it until years after it was invented) if not the greatest; the thing that enables a common pool of information to be available “to everyone” (unfortunately that last bit is not exactly true, but the limitations are political not technical). If there is something that will enable human beings to understand each other and not have to resort to fighting, that will surely be the abstract universe provided by the internet.

The development of the internet as we know it today was a fairly gradual process, but I like to think of its beginning as October 29, 1969 at 10:30 pm, when the first message was attempted to be transmitted from one computer to another via the then called ARPANET, or maybe a little later, since initially the system crashed after transmitting just two of the five characters it contained. A little later it not only worked, but unwittingly opened up a huge window of possibilities.

For all non-theistic people out there, I would like to make a suggestion. Why count years in reference to some fictional magical dude that most likely did not live around two thousand years ago? Nothing really changed with that purportedly true event, people were barbarians before that time and they kept being barbarians afterwards. But we have the ability to burn our desires to kill in online gaming arenas, and we can also describe our views in open forums until we manage to understand each other; we have something that may make the difference between being a large set of blindly selfish primitive warriors and a cooperative unit capable of things that no god has ever claimed to do.

So my suggestion is to start counting years in reference to the invention of the internet; the current year is 45 AI.

Have a nice one!

(Edit: fixed typo)
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23-04-2014, 06:53 AM
RE: I still remember time before the internet
This may be a problem when I date my checks. Consider

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23-04-2014, 06:55 AM
RE: I still remember time before the internet
You crazy bro?

This year is 564 APP*

* after printing press.

That's when the information age really started.

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23-04-2014, 07:05 AM
RE: I still remember time before the internet
Oh you guys.

No no no, we have to begin based on the systems we use in Government and law and such. That date?

Wait for it...


21/4/753 BCE. The founding date of Rome.

Forget all that Egyptian nonsense. they wrote in pictures. Shhhh

The Koreans? Too many kingdoms who couldn't come to terms. and they write with boxes and circles. Shhhh.

The Chinese? To them China was the whole world. They use squiggly lines. Weird!

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23-04-2014, 07:08 AM
RE: I still remember time before the internet
(23-04-2014 06:55 AM)DLJ Wrote:  You crazy bro?
Well, I may be, who in their right mind can claim they're not?

(23-04-2014 06:55 AM)DLJ Wrote:  This year is 564 APP*

* after printing press.

That's when the information age really started.

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The press was really a great invention, as writing methods themselves were great inventions; the accumulation of our knowledge (including the knowledge we've made up) has surely been a gradual process full of great contributions thanks to great contributors.

If you want to count years in reference and well-deserved admiration to the printing press, I'll try to remember it when we mention dates in the course of our conversations; saying that the current year is 45 AI does not exclude the notion that it also is 564 APP.

Anything better than the magic dude! :-)
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23-04-2014, 07:11 AM
RE: I still remember time before the internet
The advantage of AI (After Internet) is that Unix time is already the defacto time stamp used in computer systems. This is the number of seconds since 1st January 1970.

I suggest that AI should start from the same date to make it more consistent.
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23-04-2014, 07:12 AM
RE: I still remember time before the internet
(23-04-2014 06:55 AM)DLJ Wrote:  You crazy bro?

This year is 564 APP*

* after printing press.

That's when the information misinformation age really started.

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Fixed that for you. Wink

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23-04-2014, 07:37 AM
RE: I still remember time before the internet
(23-04-2014 07:12 AM)War Horse Wrote:  
(23-04-2014 06:55 AM)DLJ Wrote:  You crazy bro?

This year is 564 APP*

* after printing press.

That's when the information misinformation age really started.

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Fixed that for you. Wink


I'm pretty sure that religion, astrology, and propaganda all existed before the printing press... Consider

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23-04-2014, 08:31 AM
RE: I still remember time before the internet
(23-04-2014 07:11 AM)Mathilda Wrote:  The advantage of AI (After Internet) is that Unix time is already the defacto time stamp used in computer systems. This is the number of seconds since 1st January 1970.

I suggest that AI should start from the same date to make it more consistent.

Sounds good.

So LT's proposal would only be a year out.

There is certainly a precedent....

The current Islamic year is 1435 AH.

The current Thai year is 2557.

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23-04-2014, 08:31 AM
RE: I still remember time before the internet
Should we reserve the abbreviation "AI" for the singularity, though?

Give me your argument in the form of a published paper, and then we can start to talk.
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