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28-10-2015, 04:52 PM (This post was last modified: 28-10-2015 04:57 PM by RinChi.)
RE: I support Saudi Arabia because of Porn.
(28-10-2015 04:47 PM)Banjo Wrote:  RinChi.

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― William Shakespeare, Hamlet

Wasn't that Polonius? If I recall, he was probably one of the longer winded characters in the play, and also one of the least "witty" Tongue

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28-10-2015, 07:18 PM (This post was last modified: 28-10-2015 07:37 PM by epronovost.)
RE: I support Saudi Arabia because of Porn.
@RinChi

Since we agree on pretty much all point (BTW this was my argument from the beginning and these are also the recomandations of the surveys I have linked to you, no one on this thread has argued to ban porn), I would just like to mentionned smething about number 5. You are aware that «rape scene» are far from being the only dominating/humiliating practice that find its way in maintream porn. In fact, I wasn't even refering to that practice or any other form of roleplay.

PS: sharking porn is akin to revenge porn. It's when you trick one of the participant into thinking that the video will be released in a certain fashion and that they will be paid a certain amount, but one or both of those thing don't happen. Basically it's a form of con aimed at pornstar. It's especially prevalent in the domain of amateur pornography. Like revenge porn, it's starting to gain in awarness an becoming illegal more and more often.

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28-10-2015, 07:37 PM
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Shakespeare was probably quoting him. It is in Hamlett. Anyway take everything I say with a grain of salt. My brain is not functioning properly.

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28-10-2015, 07:49 PM
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I realize no one was arguing to ban it, the argument was that it does some sort of public harm or disservice. My argument was and still is that it does no such thing, and that it's our ignorance of the subject matter that does the harm. As far as the rape scene thing, sure, I was just using it as an example. But I think you may have stumbled upon a question that might be worth asking here, because there is a huge spectrum of activities that could be considered dominating and humiliating to different people. So what constitutes domination? Is it okay when the female is the dominating one? What constitutes humiliating? To whom? and for what reasons? I'l resist the urge to list behaviors here out of decency, but how are we to decide what's too far? Aside from banning criminal acts, there is no real standard. I would argue there can't be without infringing on free speech. An interesting set of questions nonetheless. I would love to discuss them in more detail, but I'm not sure the forum rules here allow it.

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28-10-2015, 07:51 PM
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(28-10-2015 07:37 PM)Banjo Wrote:  Shakespeare was probably quoting him. It is in Hamlett. Anyway take everything I say with a grain of salt. My brain is not functioning properly.

Lol I know where it's from. Polonius was the character who said it in Hamlet^^ He was the kings right hand man/spy... whatever. Not a big Shakespeare fan.

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28-10-2015, 07:52 PM
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As an artist I do not like censorship.

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28-10-2015, 07:53 PM
RE: I support Saudi Arabia because of Porn.
(28-10-2015 07:51 PM)RinChi Wrote:  
(28-10-2015 07:37 PM)Banjo Wrote:  Shakespeare was probably quoting him. It is in Hamlett. Anyway take everything I say with a grain of salt. My brain is not functioning properly.

Lol I know where it's from. Polonius was the character who said it in Hamlet^^ He was the kings right hand man/spy... whatever. Not a big Shakespeare fan.

So you see my brain? I used to be able to quote Shakespeare at length.

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28-10-2015, 08:04 PM
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(28-10-2015 07:52 PM)Banjo Wrote:  As an artist I do not like censorship.

Yeah, exactly. This is the distillation of my argument. Censorship in any form should be an absolute last resort, you really need some (pardon the phrase)"hardcore" evidence that it is seriously harming someone to justify it. It's one of the things that makes the U.S. a favored place to live. Suspending the 1st amendment because someone is offended, or even because it *might* do some immeasurable harm to some people(which porn doesn't) just isn't a good enough reason.


(28-10-2015 07:53 PM)Banjo Wrote:  So you see my brain? I used to be able to quote Shakespeare at length.

Happens to the best of us^^ I am about the worst at quotes, I am constantly having to look them up. I stand in awe of people like Hitchens who could just quote off the cuff all day long, it's amazing.

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28-10-2015, 08:20 PM
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(28-10-2015 07:49 PM)RinChi Wrote:  @epronovost

I realize no one was arguing to ban it, the argument was that it does some sort of public harm or disservice. My argument was and still is that it does no such thing, and that it's our ignorance of the subject matter that does the harm. As far as the rape scene thing, sure, I was just using it as an example. But I think you may have stumbled upon a question that might be worth asking here, because there is a huge spectrum of activities that could be considered dominating and humiliating to different people. So what constitutes domination? Is it okay when the female is the dominating one? What constitutes humiliating? To whom? and for what reasons? I'l resist the urge to list behaviors here out of decency, but how are we to decide what's too far? Aside from banning criminal acts, there is no real standard. I would argue there can't be without infringing on free speech. An interesting set of questions nonetheless. I would love to discuss them in more detail, but I'm not sure the forum rules here allow it.

I agree that there is a debate here to be had and because of restriction we can't have it (which I still consider correct). But we we both know what kind of thing we are talking about and frankly, considering the quantity of blatantly dominating/humiliating practices that have found there way into softcore porn on a regular basis, there is no need to argue about the fringe ones yet. It would also be good to mention that domination is domination no matter the sex of the dominated person or not. It just so happen that dominating/humiliative practice see women has dominated/humiliated more often than the other way around in the porn industry even if there is still a good quantity of the opposite (then again with the quantity of porn circulating around you can find a lot of everything.). This material has its place and niche in pornography and that place shouldn't be everywhere. The point 5 was about proper classification and honest advertising.

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28-10-2015, 08:24 PM
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It's a bit like the Seinfeld joke about people doing any job. "I'll clean that up". Smile

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