I've got an issue with the term "free thinker"
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21-06-2013, 05:49 PM
I've got an issue with the term "free thinker"
I'm not so sure I like the term "free thinker." Not because it has any negative connotation (like atheist, for example, a term I'm fine with), but more because it has a propaganda-ish feel to it. Kind of like the "Patriot Act." It seems to set our opponents up unfairly. Opponents of the "Patriot Act" aren't anti-American, and opponents of "free thinkers" aren't anti-free inquiry, they're just pro-religion.

I also don't think it asserts much about the secular/atheist/skeptic standpoint. Conversely, I love the term Humanism. When I hear people rail against "humanism" they sound like idiots. (How can you be against something that is pro-people?)

Anyway, I'm just curious if anyone has any thoughts on it. I'm not married to this position in any way. It's just the way the term hits me.
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21-06-2013, 06:06 PM (This post was last modified: 21-06-2013 07:15 PM by ridethespiral.)
RE: I've got an issue with the term "free thinker"
Lol, all those bills are always so deviously named...'Citizens United' bah! More like 'Three Very Wealthy Citzens United Against Democracy'

I guess it does sound a little propagandist, but what else would you call someone who thinks freely...

A Freerange Inquisitor?
An Open Ponderer?
An Unfettered Reckoner?

They all sound propaganist...

A Self-directing Surmiser?

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21-06-2013, 06:33 PM
RE: I've got an issue with the term "free thinker"
Did you read this?

Freethought

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21-06-2013, 06:58 PM
RE: I've got an issue with the term "free thinker"
I call myself a secular and spiritual ponderer.Yes
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21-06-2013, 07:23 PM
RE: I've got an issue with the term "free thinker"
I don't. It's an ancient and honorable term :
http://philosopedia.org/index.php/Peter_Abelard
http://www.infidels.org/library/historic...onary.html

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21-06-2013, 07:32 PM
RE: I've got an issue with the term "free thinker"
...then, don't use it. Big Grin

I don't know what it means. I mean, I know what it means, but I don't know what it means. I don't call myself that. I call myself a prophet... which prolly doesn't help. Big Grin

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23-06-2013, 07:07 AM
RE: I've got an issue with the term "free thinker"
I'm with HOC. You can opt not to use it if it bothers you. I'm the type of guy who thinks that if you have a problem with what I call myself and the worst that happened is that I offended your sensibility then piss off (no disrespect meant, just an extreme case of live and let live). Smile

Ooops I just went out of character as a free thinker. Experience point penalty for me. Smile


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23-06-2013, 09:54 AM
RE: I've got an issue with the term "free thinker"
I fear the term "Free Thinker" may simply be sticking in the craw of some people because it's been around for a while now.

At one point, the proper term for someone with Downs Syndrome was retarded. That became offensive, and changed to mentally handicapped. Then it became "challenged". Words like this are constantly changing and evolving. Perhaps "Free Thinker" is falling into the same trap?

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23-06-2013, 10:08 AM
RE: I've got an issue with the term "free thinker"
(23-06-2013 09:54 AM)Stark Raving Wrote:  I fear the term "Free Thinker" may simply be sticking in the craw of some people because it's been around for a while now.

At one point, the proper term for someone with Downs Syndrome was retarded. That became offensive, and changed to mentally handicapped. Then it became "challenged". Words like this are constantly changing and evolving. Perhaps "Free Thinker" is falling into the same trap?

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Wikipedia Wrote:Freethought is a philosophical viewpoint that holds opinions should be formed on the basis of logic, reason, and empiricism, rather than authority, tradition, or other dogmas.

So the 'free' in freethinking is freedom from dogma. I'm good with that.

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23-06-2013, 11:14 AM
RE: I've got an issue with the term "free thinker"
It is an apt term because, like it or not, free thought is forbidden in religion and use to carry the death penalty in many cases when charged with heresy. Individual freedoms and rights are not a religious tradition. The worse form of tyranny is a theocracy.

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