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11-02-2014, 05:21 AM (This post was last modified: 11-02-2014 04:08 PM by sporehux.)
RE: I want to reclaim a lost friendship, but only if she becomes an atheist.
.................edited out of concern for OP mental health state.

Theism is to believe what other people claim, Atheism is to ask "why should I".
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11-02-2014, 05:36 AM
RE: I want to reclaim a lost friendship, but only if she becomes an atheist.
Wogglebug, these are some incredible posts you are making - tell me it is some kind of joke. If not, you should seek professional advice. You give atheists a bad name.
When I started to date my wife, she was a regular church goer while I was atheist but I had no desire to change her. I spent some time attending church with her but eventually admitted that there was little there for me. She is now what I would say is agnostic and doesn't go to church but still believes in something clearly. She also has great interest in my views of how the Universe came about and accepts them.

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11-02-2014, 06:14 AM
RE: I want to reclaim a lost friendship, but only if she becomes an atheist.
The book:

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A review:

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Our "awesome" and "rational" atheists "rational" and "logical" response:

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Cynthia darling I think you are in need of professional help, your behavior is crazed.

And no, I'm not Sarah or Layla, so don't let your paranoia go there.
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11-02-2014, 07:10 AM (This post was last modified: 11-02-2014 04:08 PM by sporehux.)
RE: I want to reclaim a lost friendship, but only if she becomes an atheist.
.................edited out of concern for OP mental health state.

Theism is to believe what other people claim, Atheism is to ask "why should I".
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11-02-2014, 08:54 AM
RE: I want to reclaim a lost friendship, but only if she becomes an atheist.
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11-02-2014, 10:18 AM
RE: I want to reclaim a lost friendship, but only if she becomes an atheist.
(11-02-2014 12:57 AM)WogglebugLover Wrote:  I was asleep for longer than expected during today.

Just so you know, I have NO intentions of seeking any "help" outside of myself or my personal support and resources. And, I know I am right in my views but that you just cannot understand that because you have not been in MY shoes with anything like what I've been through.

And, my old enemy was essentially representing the dark side of everything you said and that is why I hate her and want to defeat her one way or another. I understand what you say about negative emotion and pain being able to little more than halt my progress. So, I will at least do my own thing to focus on the positive aspects of what I want to do, and use the negative energy to try to fuel the positive and the positive energy to prevent the negative from destroying anything valuable.

But besides these things, I would expect you to try to use such a claim as atheists shunning the religious could be same as the religious shunning the atheists. Still, I feel no fault of my own for deciding to do so. The bad person I speak of was always whining and complaining senselessly about my atheism. I realize now she knew how much smarter and overall better I am than her. She saw in me what she could never achieve no matter how much she wanted or tried to. And, believe me, I didn't know who she was at first. If I had no how she was nothing but bad news from being so shallow and insincere I would never have got myself messed up with her at all!

It is possible if I never met the first girl and thus never suffered because of her at all, I would never have tried (at least not in any direct way as I did) to de-convert the next one. I decided if she was really someone I could trust, and worthy of the respect of my fan club, and overall not capable of turning into my enemy as the other did, then she would be willing to become an atheist or at least look at the reaosns why I became one.

I understand I was thinking too much of myself at the time I decided that. However, considering how badly I was suffering from feeling the loss of trust of two people I once trusted before also, and even feeling I might have been on the verge of losing an important thing for my career that was held by another person (by the way, he has come to trust and support me for honest reasons now), I couldn't help but want to act entirely in self-interest whether or not she liked it. However, I still hold that I am correct in having an all atheist fan club. One reason because the bad girl was attempting to manipulate and blackmail me into "respecting" her by trying push "lessons" on me that would only ever serve to steal away the valauble time I need to devote myself to my own career and my own life that involves people I really like and respect, who are nothing like her. And, I just don't think allowing any Christian to my life or circle of friends invented by my fan club is at all a smart thing to do. Even if I never did what I did to the other girl I would still need to turn her to atheism somehow. And, I understand what I did was a mistake due to lack of foresight and seeing the bigger picture. But I still solemnly vow I will never allow her or any Christian in my club unless they are capable of understanding their "faith" is a falsehood. Because, Christians are more likely than atheists to deceive others about who they are and to lie about being good people, because they themselves have deluded themselves into believing they are superior than atheists because of their delusion about being superior in the invisible eyes of a non-existent entity who they believe stops bad things that are actually happening around them all the while and they themeselves are often the cause of it.

So, I am all too happy to be using the club and franchise to hurt the feelings of all Christians by invoking the truth about them as I see it.

I admit I'm starting to regret starting this particular thread. You seem more intent on looking down on me without really trying to understand me, which I have to disappoints me. Like I said though, you do not know what it is like to be me and what I've been through.

This right here. Proves you do not need to be a theist to be fanatical or completely irrational. She made you watch a movie. Maybe she didn't like the way you tried to shove your views down her throat with such venom that anyone in their right mind would stay away from you.

Your level of devotion to this fictional character strangely mimics the very behavior of theists that you deplore. You are issuing death threats to someone who gave a negative review? How is this any different from muslims calling for the death of a cartoonist because he mocked mohammad? The fact that you think you can make an empire from a fan club is also delusional. Yikes!

I am fanatical about macaroni and cheese, but I do not attempt to make people who don't care for the dish "my enemy", nor do I try to shove it down their throat. In fact, I'm quite content to keep shoving it down my own throat.

As chippy said, you are a paranoid megalomaniac and need professional help. Or at least, an adjustment to your medication.

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11-02-2014, 10:42 AM (This post was last modified: 11-02-2014 10:45 AM by Cathym112.)
RE: I want to reclaim a lost friendship, but only if she becomes an atheist.
From another Forum. Here is what her "enemy" has to say.

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Hi. Long time no post here. (though I have been lurking)


Slightly Off Topic: I am the person who Wogglebug Lover apparently wants to see dead. My crime was writing a story where Mr. Wogglebug and the Frogman were friends. . .and the Frogman was a christian. I did this not to injure her or prey on her, but I did that so I could feel more comfortable writing the fanfic. Plus, at the time, I saw it representative of *our*friendship; me the Christian and her, the atheist. She was offended and I took the fic down.

Later, she discontinued our friendship because I said I disliked Richard Dawkins (lame reason to end a friendship, huh?) and reposted the fic. It was then that she told me how I couldn't use the fanfic as the concept of Mr. Wogglebug and the Frogman being friends was her idea. I had thought it was L Frank Baum's, as I had never read all of the Oz books. I took the fanfic down again. After intense aruging, I attacked her writing skills (one of her fanfics is a direct copy-paste of the Cartoon Drug Special from the early nineties, just with different characters. and at least one of her stories involving Mr.Wogglebug copied and pasted huge amounts of "The Marvelous Land of Oz". Original stories based on games she liked to play read like a walkthrough of the game. Etc.), she cried, I felt sorry and decided to help with her writing and hopefully help her become more tolerant of others.

Eventually, she revealed she was only pretending to forgive me and that I was a bully who picked on people in order to make myself feel better about my Asbergers. I apologized to her (a mistake, because I basically lied when I said that I knew that I was ripping her idea off. I was just so afraid of losing her friendship.).


I knew she hated me now, but I never thought she wanted me to kill myself. And honestly, ever since last year, I've been struggling with my own feelings about this because I was afraid that Wogglebug Lover was in the right and that I really was uncompassionate. (Among other things, I suffer from an inferiority complex, thanks to horrible past experiences with people.) I often thought of her, and when I did, I always became gloomy. I tried thinking of the ways she would boastfully talk about how she successfully forced people to take down their fanfics, or how she said she only hated character bashing "if they were bashing likable characters," yet I always feared that I was in the minority in thinking that she was crazy. After all, I *am* the one with the crush on the actor who is most famous for playing a sociopathic Nazi in a Quentin Tarantino movie.

What I'm trying to say is that discovering this site proved to be a major step to my recovery. Knowing that I'm not crazy has really helped. Thank you, guys.

Sorry for getting so off topic. I just feel more at peace now and felt like I needed to thank you guys, simply because you helped me realize that I am not alone out there. Smile



I should really post here more often. Smile
Wogglebug Lover, aka Insect Lover, aka Cherie Hapney, aka Cynthia Hanson, is an unrepentant bully with severe issues. One of the earlier versions of her profile (when I was communicating with her, before she revealed herself to be batshit insane) stated that she hated psychiatrists. After a little Google searching, I came to the conclusion that she'd been to see psychiatrists and they'd disagreed with her...a mortal sin, in Little Miss Crazy's opinion. I'm actually kind of surprised she hasn't shown up on this forum yet (though I'm not sorry; the wank would be loltastic, but she's an extremely unpleasant individual). She once wrote a Bible fic in which her self-insert blows up a church and slaughters Christians. That story was taken down, though whether she did it herself or the FF.net staff did it after complaints is unknown.

Her bullying has resulted in whole websites being taken down. One of the reasons she dislikes me so much (when she refers to Anne Blair being mean and snobbish, she's talking about me) is because I wouldn't do what she wanted (and also because I once reviewed one of her crappy stories and pointed out that the dollar is not the currency of England, which infuriated her). If she thinks you're crazy, congratulations. It means you're sane.

There's a lot of batshit fanbrats out there, but most of them are just immature and/or pathetic. Wogglebug Lover is scary. I would not want to have to deal with her in real life, and I would honestly vote her Fanbrat That is Most Likely to End Up in a Clock Tower With a Sniper Rifle.
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11-02-2014, 10:54 AM (This post was last modified: 11-02-2014 11:19 AM by Cathym112.)
RE: I want to reclaim a lost friendship, but only if she becomes an atheist.
On second thought...I've edited and removed the content of my comments. I want no part of the crazy she is selling.

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11-02-2014, 10:57 AM
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I have pretty much been slack-jawed since the first post. I still don't even know what to say or where to start. There are definitely personal issues here that are way, way beyond anything we can do here.

And those books are horrific. I would never have picked one of those up for my kids or grandkids, even for a dime at a used book store.

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11-02-2014, 11:01 AM
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(11-02-2014 10:57 AM)Anjele Wrote:  I have pretty much been slack-jawed since the first post. I still don't even know what to say or where to start. There are definitely personal issues here that are way, way beyond anything we can do here.

And those books are horrific. I would never have picked one of those up for my kids or grandkids, even for a dime at a used book store.

I've never even HEARD of the Doodlebug or whatever the hell it is.

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