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15-02-2015, 06:38 PM
RE: I will debate any atheist on here
And to be even more precise, mutation is random, selection is non-random.

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15-02-2015, 07:05 PM
RE: I will debate any atheist on here
(15-02-2015 06:19 PM)Full Circle Wrote:  Unfortunately this cosmic mechanic is a bumbler, didn’t go to mechanic school, didn’t learn as an apprentice from a certified Cosmic Mechanic and is otherwise a pretty poor craftsman. Why you ask?

For unexplainable reasons he sticks non-functionong (vestigial) parts in all his creations! Appendix and coccyx bone in humans, femurs and pelvic bones in whales, feathers on Ostriches (or maybe he just forgot the wings?) The list is endless!
http://evolution.about.com/od/evidence/t...Humans.htm

And as if this wasn’t enough the fucking parts don’t work all that well and sometimes not at all! They come with manufacturer’s defects from the factory. High blood pressure, cancer, blindness, deafness, mute, with spina-bifida, as siamese twins, with Ambras syndrome, fused limbs and Fibrodysplasia ossificans progressiva just to name a few.
http://listverse.com/2010/09/08/top-10-b...h-defects/

So either evolution happens as science tells us it does OR you have a Cosmic Mechanic that is embarrasingly and absolutely incompetent! Drinking Beverage



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15-02-2015, 07:57 PM
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(15-02-2015 06:19 PM)Full Circle Wrote:  Now you conflate abiogenesis with evolution. You bounce all over the place like a ping pong ball in a tornado hoping like hell some of your bullshit will stick. In the meantime I continue to expose your two-bit, ridiculous ideas like James Randi on loop. Laugh out load

So, let us continue to dismantle your Blind Watchmaker argument since apparently you didn’t understand why it is a FALSE ANALOGY, try and follow along now sparky.

Biological living things reproduce, trust me on this point.

But your proposal requires that two Ford F-150s hump each other and produce offspring! Laughat

The reason this is a VERY IMPORTANT distinction is for the following:
As biological creatures make copies of themselves mutations (errors in copying) occur.
Some of these mutations are harmful and are selected to die off. Some are benign. Some however are useful and those individuals with the mutation out-compete their rivals. (Still with me?)

Over successive generations, sometimes in surprisingly few (read The Beak of the Finch, J. Weiner ~ you can download for free here http://ebookandpdf.com/science-books/390...n-our.html I’m trying to help you learn something useful here) and in other instances in a great many over immensely long periods of time, living creatures evolve and change. This is an unrefutable fact understood and accepted by everyone who isn’t a moron.

Now for the fun part Yes

Let us look at what your myopic car analogy implies. You want us to believe that God has this cosmic garage. In the garage are shelves upon shelves of body parts. Here you can find such things as:

-Human eyes
-Elephant ears
-Tardigrade feet
-Monkey tails
-Snake scales
-Fish fins
-Bird beaks

All these body parts are in their final phase, in other words not evolved in any sense but rather dreamt up by your sky-daddy in their ultimate and final form.

From here this cosmic mechanic goes to work. It picks an eye from this shelf, a heart from that one and on and on until we get every living thing we see on the planet in their final form, no evolution required (we won’t talk about what life on other planets might look like for now).

Still with me?

Unfortunately this cosmic mechanic is a bumbler, didn’t go to mechanic school, didn’t learn as an apprentice from a certified Cosmic Mechanic and is otherwise a pretty poor craftsman. Why you ask?

For unexplainable reasons he sticks non-functionong (vestigial) parts in all his creations! Appendix and coccyx bone in humans, femurs and pelvic bones in whales, feathers on Ostriches (or maybe he just forgot the wings?) The list is endless!
http://evolution.about.com/od/evidence/t...Humans.htm

And as if this wasn’t enough the fucking parts don’t work all that well and sometimes not at all! They come with manufacturer’s defects from the factory. High blood pressure, cancer, blindness, deafness, mute, with spina-bifida, as siamese twins, with Ambras syndrome, fused limbs and Fibrodysplasia ossificans progressiva just to name a few.
http://listverse.com/2010/09/08/top-10-b...h-defects/

So either evolution happens as science tells us it does OR you have a Cosmic Mechanic that is embarrasingly and absolutely incompetent! Drinking Beverage

I'm working on a degree in cell biology, and let me tell ya - the more I study, the less evidence I see for design. Especially in the area of genetics.
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15-02-2015, 09:31 PM
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(15-02-2015 03:12 PM)natachan Wrote:  Soooo.... The consciousness of a child begins at copulation? I find that far fetched. Especially since it's not true.

Regardless of when it begins, the question is where did it come from? That question just hasn't been answered yet.
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15-02-2015, 09:36 PM
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(15-02-2015 03:26 PM)goodwithoutgod Wrote:  http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/forum/...#pid736487

Don't make me school you on two subjects lol, you must be into pain and public humiliation. By the way, that reptile bird you were looking for is called Archaeopteryx...look at you learning shit Laugh out load

Yet, no one has accepted the challenge yet lol. First off, I am quite aware of Archaeopteryx...and I am also aware of the false hope that you and others that believe the dumb theory of evolution, that archaeopteryx is NOT any missing link between anything.
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15-02-2015, 09:38 PM
RE: I will debate any atheist on here
(15-02-2015 03:42 PM)Anjele Wrote:  This doesn't even make sense.

So, I guess it goes well with the rest of your nonsense.

Carry on. Drinking Beverage

It is no surprise that good, solid points doesn't make any sense to you lol.
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15-02-2015, 09:42 PM
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(15-02-2015 04:10 PM)Leo Wrote:  Poor troll. Sorry but your apologetics link is full of shit. The ancient romans ( like the jews ) measured the day light hours from sunrise to sunset. So the 6th hour means noon or 12:00pm. Drinking BeverageNo

Well, take that up with the guy that wrote the summary Cool
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15-02-2015, 09:50 PM
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(15-02-2015 04:47 PM)Helio Wrote:  An argument from design does not take into consideration observed examples that count against it - for example the laryngeal nerve in the giraffe.

"The argument from design is a bad argument because of a nerve in the giraffe" lollll. Too funny.


(15-02-2015 04:47 PM)Helio Wrote:  Evolution is not random, mindless or blind - it is a cumulative and constructual, gradual process that takes many millions of years to develop.

The process is mindless, it can't think...and it is blind, it can't see...yet, on your view, it is because of this mindless and blind process, that we have vision, hearing, a brain, digestive system, circulatory system, immune system, respitory system, reproductive system...we have all of this shit that we NEED to survive, from a PROCESS that can't see, and DIDN'T know what the hell it was doing.

If you don't see the faith in that, I can't help you...and of course, the atheist reason for why we don't observe all of this cool stuff is because "it takes millions of years to develop"...how convenient.."no one has ever seen this stuff occur, and no one will ever see this stuff occur, but it occurs".

How foolish is that?
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15-02-2015, 09:53 PM
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(15-02-2015 07:57 PM)Dahlia Wrote:  I'm working on a degree in cell biology, and let me tell ya - the more I study, the less evidence I see for design. Especially in the area of genetics.

Oh yeah, well please tell me where did the information contained in the DNA...where did the information come from??
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15-02-2015, 10:05 PM (This post was last modified: 15-02-2015 10:16 PM by pablo.)
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(15-02-2015 09:53 PM)Call_of_the_Wild Wrote:  
(15-02-2015 07:57 PM)Dahlia Wrote:  I'm working on a degree in cell biology, and let me tell ya - the more I study, the less evidence I see for design. Especially in the area of genetics.

Oh yeah, well please tell me where did the information contained in the DNA...where did the information come from??

Magic of course. Thumbsup
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