I wish to feel superior to reality (atheism)
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06-08-2014, 12:03 AM
RE: I wish to feel superior to reality (atheism)
(04-08-2014 02:12 AM)Mozart Link Wrote:  If, let's pretend, there were a portal right there in front of me right now that would lead me to a life of perfection and eternal joy and I had the choice to either go into that portal or instead remain here on Earth and suffer with depression and such and help other people, I would go into that portal. Now before you think negative of me and such, I would actually take care of this situation of other people not being helped by having someone take my place to help others and make up for the help I chose not to offer. Then after I have chosen someone, I would then enter the portal and leave this world.

If you still think negative of me and such, I am going to clearly prove you wrong. First off, this is a "two birds with one stone situation" in which I have not only taken care of the situation in which other people have not been helped by me, but I also have given myself a life of perfection and eternal joy as well. Second, for you to still think negative of me would mean that you think that having this burden placed on someone else in helping others is more important than my own emotional well-being (my pleasure and such). This is obviously wrong and my emotional well-being is far more important than some extremely minor inconvenience in comparison in which this person would have to make up for the help I did not offer others.

Also, life has no meaning and is whatever meaning you give it. So whatever meaning I give myself such as that my happiness is the most important thing more important than anything in the world and I am all great, etc., then this would be something true (only for me).

Now being alive is superior to being dead as long as you have pleasure. So if I am emotionally alive (have all the pleasure in the world), then that makes me superior and a better person than if I were to be depressed and numb (emotionally dead) regardless of who I am, what attitude I have, and how much I help others. Even if I were a psychopath and killed many people, as long as I have all the pleasure in the world, that would make me a far better and superior person than if I were someone who is depressed and emotionally numb and helped and cared for other people. Pleasure is the absolute and defining life force of "living" and a living thing that makes you better and superior (as I know just how good of a experience pleasure is and how much it makes life worth living and is the only thing to me that makes life worth living). Without it, you are nothing regardless of how much you help others and such. So even if I didn't choose to have someone take my place in helping others before I went into that portal, I would still be the better person for choosing to have all the pleasure in the world and living a life of self-empowerment, perfection, and eternal joy.

If someone were to try to prevent me from entering that portal, even if they were innocent, I would become a psychopath and ruthlessly kill this person for not having any value towards my own emotional well-being and instead choosing to view helping others as far more important and devaluing my own emotional well-being for this sake (when I clearly know that my own emotional well-being is far more important in this case, especially since I have chosen to have someone take my place in helping others). This is another reason why I feel empowered by watching anime and feeling empowered from characters in anime who are ruthless and have a sense of self-empowerment and such. So in killing this person trying to prevent me from entering that portal, I would of felt awesome just like these ruthless characters.

Finally, if I had the choice to either be retarded and have all the pleasure in the world and give the person the burden of having to take care of me or to be intelligent and have no pleasure and not give a person this burden, I would not only choose to be retarded for all of my reasons given here, but also because this person (especially if it were my own family) should value my own emotional well-being in which they would be devastated knowing the fact that I am living a life of no pleasure despite the fact that I am intelligent and such. And that it would be far better for them to have the burden of taking care of me if I were retarded because, even though they would have this burden and perhaps a hard life resulting from it, they would at least know that I am happy and that would make them feel happy and at peace as opposed to them being devastated if I were intelligent and such with no pleasure.

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06-08-2014, 07:21 AM
RE: I wish to feel superior to reality (atheism)
I like to live in reality, and not in a world where I believe that everything is controlled by an invisible sky daddy whose only proof of existence is in a book of fairy tales filled with evil acts done, or condoned, by him.

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06-08-2014, 08:35 AM
RE: I wish to feel superior to reality (atheism)
(04-08-2014 02:12 AM)Mozart Link Wrote:  If, let's pretend, there were a portal right there in front of me right now that would lead me to a life of perfection and eternal joy and I had the choice to either go into that portal or instead remain here on Earth and suffer with depression and such and help other people, I would go into that portal. Now before you think negative of me and such, I would actually take care of this situation of other people not being helped by having someone take my place to help others and make up for the help I chose not to offer. Then after I have chosen someone, I would then enter the portal and leave this world.

If you still think negative of me and such, I am going to clearly prove you wrong. First off, this is a "two birds with one stone situation" in which I have not only taken care of the situation in which other people have not been helped by me, but I also have given myself a life of perfection and eternal joy as well. Second, for you to still think negative of me would mean that you think that having this burden placed on someone else in helping others is more important than my own emotional well-being (my pleasure and such). This is obviously wrong and my emotional well-being is far more important than some extremely minor inconvenience in comparison in which this person would have to make up for the help I did not offer others.

Also, life has no meaning and is whatever meaning you give it. So whatever meaning I give myself such as that my happiness is the most important thing more important than anything in the world and I am all great, etc., then this would be something true (only for me).

Now being alive is superior to being dead as long as you have pleasure. So if I am emotionally alive (have all the pleasure in the world), then that makes me superior and a better person than if I were to be depressed and numb (emotionally dead) regardless of who I am, what attitude I have, and how much I help others. Even if I were a psychopath and killed many people, as long as I have all the pleasure in the world, that would make me a far better and superior person than if I were someone who is depressed and emotionally numb and helped and cared for other people. Pleasure is the absolute and defining life force of "living" and a living thing that makes you better and superior (as I know just how good of a experience pleasure is and how much it makes life worth living and is the only thing to me that makes life worth living). Without it, you are nothing regardless of how much you help others and such. So even if I didn't choose to have someone take my place in helping others before I went into that portal, I would still be the better person for choosing to have all the pleasure in the world and living a life of self-empowerment, perfection, and eternal joy.

If someone were to try to prevent me from entering that portal, even if they were innocent, I would become a psychopath and ruthlessly kill this person for not having any value towards my own emotional well-being and instead choosing to view helping others as far more important and devaluing my own emotional well-being for this sake (when I clearly know that my own emotional well-being is far more important in this case, especially since I have chosen to have someone take my place in helping others). This is another reason why I feel empowered by watching anime and feeling empowered from characters in anime who are ruthless and have a sense of self-empowerment and such. So in killing this person trying to prevent me from entering that portal, I would of felt awesome just like these ruthless characters.

Finally, if I had the choice to either be retarded and have all the pleasure in the world and give the person the burden of having to take care of me or to be intelligent and have no pleasure and not give a person this burden, I would not only choose to be retarded for all of my reasons given here, but also because this person (especially if it were my own family) should value my own emotional well-being in which they would be devastated knowing the fact that I am living a life of no pleasure despite the fact that I am intelligent and such. And that it would be far better for them to have the burden of taking care of me if I were retarded because, even though they would have this burden and perhaps a hard life resulting from it, they would at least know that I am happy and that would make them feel happy and at peace as opposed to them being devastated if I were intelligent and such with no pleasure.

So not only are you emotionally dysfunctional but you're also a self-centered piece of shit.

You whine about people expecting you to cater to their needs, but think it's perfectly acceptable, if not preferable, for others to care about your well-being more than their own.

Go choke on your pipe dreams, asshole.

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06-08-2014, 01:34 PM
RE: I wish to feel superior to reality (atheism)
(31-07-2014 04:58 PM)Mozart Link Wrote:  I wish to feel superior to reality by embracing fantasy and feeling empowered by fantasy as well as through the delusion that there is a God and an afterlife. But my intelligence (atheism) has prevented me from being this person I want to be. Which is why I hate such intelligence and view fantasy and feelings of pleasure as superior. All that matters in life to me is embracing feelings of pleasure from god-like fantasy which would make me a mystical god-like being who is superior to reality (so to speak, not literally speaking). So all that matters to me is being a superior god-like being in a sense and ending all things inferior in my life. To me, struggles in life, depression, and the fact that there is no God or afterlife are all inferior things to me and must die. So by believing in a God and an afterlife, I would have "killed" this inferior concept of there being no God and afterlife in a sense (including any feelings of depression as well). Feeling empowered and that I'm all great is the only thing that matters to me in life (not in comparison to other people, but in comparison to myself and reality itself).

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07-08-2014, 03:59 PM
RE: I wish to feel superior to reality (atheism)
I am now going to prove how pleasure is the most important part of the brain. Many people who are depressed or have little to no ability of experiencing pleasure are suicidal. But, for example, if you were to disable any other part of their brains instead such as their intelligence or memory, etc., they would not feel suicidal. Of course, if you were to disable any part of their brain that is necessary to live, they would die, but they wouldn't feel suicidal.

Now why is it that they would feel suicidal if they were to lose their pleasure? It would be because pleasure has such immense value that one would be lead to suicide if they didn't have it. But they wouldn't feel suicidal if they were to lose any other part of their brain because it would have virtually no value in comparison to pleasure. Very few people would have virtually no value towards pleasure and would be fine living their lives with no pleasure. Such people would be those who never had pleasure to begin with and never knew what it even felt like to have it in the first place. If they did though, they would feel suicidal. If not suicidal, then they would at least feel very depressed not having it.
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08-08-2014, 10:10 AM
RE: I wish to feel superior to reality (atheism)
(07-08-2014 03:59 PM)Mozart Link Wrote:  I am now going to prove how pleasure is the most important part of the brain. Many people who are depressed or have little to no ability of experiencing pleasure are suicidal. But, for example, if you were to disable any other part of their brains instead such as their intelligence or memory, etc., they would not feel suicidal. Of course, if you were to disable any part of their brain that is necessary to live, they would die, but they wouldn't feel suicidal.

Now why is it that they would feel suicidal if they were to lose their pleasure? It would be because pleasure has such immense value that one would be lead to suicide if they didn't have it. But they wouldn't feel suicidal if they were to lose any other part of their brain because it would have virtually no value in comparison to pleasure. Very few people would have virtually no value towards pleasure and would be fine living their lives with no pleasure. Such people would be those who never had pleasure to begin with and never knew what it even felt like to have it in the first place. If they did though, they would feel suicidal. If not suicidal, then they would at least feel very depressed not having it.
You present a lot of statements as fact that are clearly unfounded. You seem to have little understanding of the brain or of suicide. Suicide is usually more a function of emotional pain and hopelessness. A person can be suicidal while still experiencing some pleasure in their lives. In fact, a person can be perfectly content with their life one day, have a single bad event the next day, and commit suicide. There are many different reasons why a person may become suicidal. The whole matter is far more complex than what you are attempting to claim here.

As for pleasure being the most important part of the brain, I didn't hear the proof you said you would provide. For starters, you need to define "important". Is "important" simply what keeps us alive? Is "important" what gives us a certain minimum quality of life? Is "important" the same for everyone? So define what you mean. Only then can we determine if pleasure is the most important part of the brain in terms of that definition.

I am not accountable to any God. I am accountable to myself - and not because I think I am God as some theists would try to assert - but because, no matter what actions I take, thoughts I think, or words I utter, I have to be able to live with myself.
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