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07-02-2015, 12:38 PM (This post was last modified: 07-02-2015 12:49 PM by GirlyMan.)
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(07-02-2015 11:25 AM)Res Publica Wrote:  India has given the world all sorts of things that others try to take credit for; like ... almost all of modern mathematics ...

The fuck you talking about Willis. Tell that to Leibniz and Newton.

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07-02-2015, 01:27 PM
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(07-02-2015 12:38 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(07-02-2015 11:25 AM)Res Publica Wrote:  India has given the world all sorts of things that others try to take credit for; like ... almost all of modern mathematics ...

The fuck you talking about Willis. Tell that to Leibniz and Newton.

Yes, but to be fair, he's an ignorant idiot. Sure, Bose and Ramanujan are important mathematicians, but...

No, Khayyam was one of the most important mathematical figures in all of history, and that dude was sure as fuck a bona fide Persian Muslim. Incidentally, he was also a brilliant philosopher and poet, every bit as much a "Renaissance man" as the European exemplars of the term were - three hundred years later...
(but like the examples of Newton and Leibnitz - and many others - there was no single originator of most things in the days before modern communication; figures from the Italian Fibonacci to the Chinese Zhu Shijie worked in what we now call 'algebra', and those proceeded from various Greek, Babylonian, Indian, and Chinese roots)

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07-02-2015, 01:54 PM (This post was last modified: 07-02-2015 01:59 PM by GirlyMan.)
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(07-02-2015 01:27 PM)cjlr Wrote:  Yes, but to be fair, he's an ignorant idiot. Sure, Bose and Ramanujan are important mathematicians, but...

Ramanujan don't count 'cause he was a Thetan headed for Venus who crash landed in India.

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07-02-2015, 02:00 PM
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(07-02-2015 01:54 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(07-02-2015 01:27 PM)cjlr Wrote:  Yes, but to be fair, he's an ignorant idiot. Sure, Bose and Ramanujan are important mathematicians, but...

Ramanujan don't count 'cause he was an alien from another planet who crash landed in India.

... you make a compelling case, GirlyMan.

Although surely that would be Erdős if anyone?

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07-02-2015, 02:17 PM
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(07-02-2015 11:16 AM)Stevil Wrote:  
(07-02-2015 03:54 AM)The Germans are coming Wrote:  Nope.

The definition of what it means to be a citizen. Being part of a civilised community comes with the responsibility to accept legal framework which guarantees the equality of all.

If you think some are less equal than others or that the notions of uqality should be overturned so you can go out and burn people alive you lose all rights to be considered part of the community.
In NZ, being a citizen means holding a citizenship in that country. You are free to think what you want, free to disagree with the government, free to disagree with the law, free to speak up about your disagreement, free to vote for change.
In NZ even Socialists are citizens, even Communists, even Anarchists and Capitalists, even Muslims, Christians and atheists.

From what you are saying, Germany sounds fucked up.

I don't however think Germany is that fucked up. I disbelieve what you are saying about Germany.

BTW a very, very very small sub group of the Muslim faith are burning people up. There are many Muslims who have no interest whatsoever to do violent things to other people.

I dont represent Germany. Let alone German law.

I am voicing my opinions.

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07-02-2015, 02:31 PM
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(07-02-2015 02:00 PM)cjlr Wrote:  
(07-02-2015 01:54 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  Ramanujan don't count 'cause he was an alien from another planet who crash landed in India.

... you make a compelling case, GirlyMan.

Although surely that would be Erdős if anyone?

Possessions meant little to Erdős; most of his belongings would fit in a suitcase, as dictated by his itinerant lifestyle.

Euler has set the standard for travelling lightly. You can pack that shit in a sock. Big Grin

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07-02-2015, 02:35 PM
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(07-02-2015 02:31 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  Euler has set the standard for travelling lightly. You can pack that shit in a sock. Big Grin

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They don't call it the most beautiful equation for nothing.

As it happens, the best way to illustrate it is to plot it on a pair of real/imaginary axes. Which takes the train of precedence steaming right past Descartes - whose great contribution might be said to be the synthesis of algebra with geometry - and thus all the way back to Euclid, which is satisfying in a sentimental sort of way.

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07-02-2015, 02:47 PM (This post was last modified: 07-02-2015 03:00 PM by GirlyMan.)
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(07-02-2015 02:35 PM)cjlr Wrote:  They don't call it the most beautiful equation for nothing.

As it happens, the best way to illustrate it is to plot it on a pair of real/imaginary axes.

Brings a tear to my eye.




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07-02-2015, 05:30 PM
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(06-02-2015 10:46 AM)Tomasia Wrote:  
(03-02-2015 11:57 PM)morondog Wrote:  The only worry I have with the idea of war is it costs a lot of resources and time, and you can't just go kill the fuckers, you have to stabilise the area, somehow win the hearts and minds of the local population - if ISIS govern with terror though, the local population may be primed to support anyone who's not them.

I recently watched a Vice interview with ISIS, in reality it seems that they've won the hearts and minds of the locals. They insure that people are fed, that the poor are taken care of, that local business behave honestly. That folks abstain from alcohol and drugs.

It's a nightmare for people in the margins, dissenters, those with opposing religious view, etc.., but the locals themselves don't seem particularly disgruntled. For many of them life might even be better than under the rule of Saddam, or Maliki.

It's remarkable that ISIS their fighters are not particularly a bunch of disgruntled young men, but folks who seem pretty content, happy in fact, in their brotherhood of violence. You can sort of see why a disenfranchised young Arab in the west, void of finding any real sense of meaning and significance, would be attracted to joining ISIS, and perhaps finding exactly what he was looking for in it.

You ever going to go back to the religious morality thread you started?

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08-02-2015, 10:15 AM
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why isn't the UN security council not planning a massive invasion of ISIS territory ? its not like the council isn't guilty of doing it before
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