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30-10-2015, 08:53 AM
RE: ISLAMIC INVASION PULLS TRIGGER: EUROPE NOW SCRAMBLES FOR GUNS
(30-10-2015 08:15 AM)KUSA Wrote:  
(30-10-2015 07:38 AM)Slowminded Wrote:  Yeah, but it doesn`t happen nearly as often to warrant the approach you are suggesting.
I simply don't agree with you. I would rather be prepared than be vulnerable.
Ok, but just from the practical side , if US army (on government orders or otherwise ) decides to go apeshit on the population I doubt that any amount of preparation on your side is going to make any difference, so you might as well not waste your time on it.

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30-10-2015, 08:58 AM
ISLAMIC INVASION PULLS TRIGGER: EUROPE NOW SCRAMBLES FOR GUNS
(30-10-2015 08:53 AM)Slowminded Wrote:  
(30-10-2015 08:15 AM)KUSA Wrote:  I simply don't agree with you. I would rather be prepared than be vulnerable.
Ok, but just from the practical side , if US army (on government orders or otherwise ) decides to go apeshit on the population I doubt that any amount of preparation on your side is going to make any difference, so you might as well not waste your time on it.

If they picked a few people to go after then they would be fucked.

If they went apeshit on the whole population the government would have an uprising against them that would overturn anything they had.
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30-10-2015, 08:59 AM
RE: ISLAMIC INVASION PULLS TRIGGER: EUROPE NOW SCRAMBLES FOR GUNS
(30-10-2015 08:58 AM)KUSA Wrote:  
(30-10-2015 08:53 AM)Slowminded Wrote:  Ok, but just from the practical side , if US army (on government orders or otherwise ) decides to go apeshit on the population I doubt that any amount of preparation on your side is going to make any difference, so you might as well not waste your time on it.

If they picked a few people to go after then they would be fucked.

If they went apeshit on the whole population the government would have an uprising against them that would overturn anything they had.

Who exactly is the "they" of this scenario?

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30-10-2015, 09:10 AM
ISLAMIC INVASION PULLS TRIGGER: EUROPE NOW SCRAMBLES FOR GUNS
(30-10-2015 08:59 AM)ClydeLee Wrote:  Who exactly is the "they" of this scenario?

If they (government) picked a few people to go after then they (people) would be fucked.

If they (government) went apeshit on the whole population the government would have an uprising against them that would overturn anything they (government) had.
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30-10-2015, 09:22 AM
RE: ISLAMIC INVASION PULLS TRIGGER: EUROPE NOW SCRAMBLES FOR GUNS
(30-10-2015 08:52 AM)Szuchow Wrote:  
(30-10-2015 08:39 AM)Slowminded Wrote:  Goli otok , the isolation camp that you are referring to was closed in 1956 ( while Tito diead in 1980 , still in power ) it had the total of 16.000 political prisoners , of witch only about 400 died, so even tho it is an example of open terror against the population , it is not such a big deal ( considering how totalitarian regimes usually deal with wave makers) in the whole Tito`s reign.
What I meant by "not openly using terror" is that ordinary people not involved in politics for the most part waren`t subjected to any terror from the state.

Official sources state number of 16 731 people being sent to said camp*. According to foreign sources number of people arrested for political reasons could be as high as 300 000**.

There certainly was open terror even if for short time. Though apart from that I don't know much about Tito regime so I won't disagree with your statement about ordinary people not being persecuted.

* Jezernik, Naga wyspa s. 14 of polish edition
**Jezernik, Naga wyspa s. 14, 15 of polish edition
300k sounds unrealistic even if counting all the arrests not leading to prison time , but who knows. Most of the people who lived during the Tito`s rule don`t remember it as years of terror. In fact there is some nostalgia for those times among older people .

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30-10-2015, 09:44 AM (This post was last modified: 30-10-2015 09:49 AM by GirlyMan.)
RE: ISLAMIC INVASION PULLS TRIGGER: EUROPE NOW SCRAMBLES FOR GUNS
(30-10-2015 08:58 AM)KUSA Wrote:  If they went apeshit on the whole population the government would have an uprising against them that would overturn anything they had.

You keep telling yourself that.









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30-10-2015, 09:55 AM
ISLAMIC INVASION PULLS TRIGGER: EUROPE NOW SCRAMBLES FOR GUNS
(30-10-2015 09:44 AM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(30-10-2015 08:58 AM)KUSA Wrote:  If they went apeshit on the whole population the government would have an uprising against them that would overturn anything they had.

You keep telling yourself that.








So the US military will destroy its own country? You must not have any fucking sense.
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30-10-2015, 09:58 AM (This post was last modified: 30-10-2015 10:04 AM by GirlyMan.)
RE: ISLAMIC INVASION PULLS TRIGGER: EUROPE NOW SCRAMBLES FOR GUNS
(30-10-2015 09:55 AM)KUSA Wrote:  
(30-10-2015 09:44 AM)GirlyMan Wrote:  You keep telling yourself that.








So the US military will destroy its own country? You must not have any fucking sense.

You are the one who suggested the Government (guess what, the military is part of the Government) would go apeshit on the whole population. How else do you think the Government could go all apeshit on the whole population? Send out ninja Congressional staffers? You are the one who has no fucking sense.

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30-10-2015, 10:08 AM
ISLAMIC INVASION PULLS TRIGGER: EUROPE NOW SCRAMBLES FOR GUNS
(30-10-2015 09:58 AM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(30-10-2015 09:55 AM)KUSA Wrote:  So the US military will destroy its own country? You must not have any fucking sense.

You are the one who suggested the Government (guess what, the military is part of the Government) would go apeshit on the whole population. How else do you think the Government go all apeshit on the whole population? Send out ninja Cogressional staffers? You are the one who has no fucking sense.

If the government turned on the people it wouldn't be an all out attack from air and sea. You suggested that.
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30-10-2015, 10:10 AM (This post was last modified: 30-10-2015 10:19 AM by GirlyMan.)
RE: ISLAMIC INVASION PULLS TRIGGER: EUROPE NOW SCRAMBLES FOR GUNS
(30-10-2015 10:08 AM)KUSA Wrote:  
(30-10-2015 09:58 AM)GirlyMan Wrote:  You are the one who suggested the Government (guess what, the military is part of the Government) would go apeshit on the whole population. How else do you think the Government go all apeshit on the whole population? Send out ninja Cogressional staffers? You are the one who has no fucking sense.

If the government turned on the people it wouldn't be an all out attack from air and sea. You suggested that.

Of course it would. Why wouldn't it be? The US military don't do something half-assed. You are not only paranoid delusional your are fucking naive with a bunch of stupid thrown in for good measure.

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