Icky. Purity Ball and this on going virgin culture
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15-05-2014, 09:22 AM
RE: Icky. Purity Ball and this on going virgin culture
(13-05-2014 01:13 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  It's a silly thing really. Didn't the whole debutant thing die out?

This just seems another extension. A way of informing young men that the girl is ready for marriage.

Because let's be clear on this, it's exactly what's happening.

Oh no...the debutante thing is alive and well in SC, at least it was when I was there. Each spring there would be pages and pages of pictures of debs in the Sunday papers. My guilty, mean girl pleasure was to go through picture by picture looking at these rich girls and deciding which ones lucked out by being rich cause they were sure lacking in the looks department. Especially evil was laughing when one sister was gorgeous and the other looked...well, much less than gorgeous.

There would be write ups of who their parents and grandparent are/were. Who their escort was and his family background. For me it was like an driving by an accident....I had to look.

The creepiest thing about the video in the OP for me are the prom date/wedding looking poses with father and daughter...made me throw up in my mouth a little.

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15-05-2014, 09:25 AM
RE: Icky. Purity Ball and this on going virgin culture
(15-05-2014 09:02 AM)natachan Wrote:  
(15-05-2014 12:03 AM)morondog Wrote:  I bought the sex is dirty thing hook, line and sinker when I was younger Dodgy It took me *years* to reprogram. When you're a shy kid in the first place... There are still friends I have who think that sex is only good in marriage, and I bet even then, that they feel dirty while doing it.

fortunately I escaped that. I realized what was happening to me was natural, and why should it be wrong if it was naturally happening to me? Everything else natural seemed perfectly ok, so why should this be different? I also had access to the (early) internet, so I knew that everyone felt these things. The church folks that taught sex ed tried to instill the shame, but it didn't take.

This really has driven my own views on sex ed. Tell kids that what they are feeling is natural and there's nothing to be ashamed about. Give them guidance but never make them feel embarrassed or ashamed about what they are naturally feeling.

Well, not only do these purity balls hamper normal teenage sexual development, but they're also openly misogynistic. That's lovely. But it is a religious ceremony, so it should be expected.

Yes, the misogynistic idea that if a girl has sex before marriage is wrong. But if a boy has sex before marriage it's only because he was tempted by the girl.

I have a friend, she dresses her daughter modestly (read frumpy) because she truly believes that her daughter's body will tempt boys to sin. Boys/young men aren't accountable and definitely too weak to withstand a tiny amount of cleavage.

And they actually believe the muslim's are the crazy ones? Ok, you're not making your daughter wear a burka but don't call them crazy for doing it, because the ONLY difference between the way her daughter dresses and the muslim girl is that the muslim girl is wearing regular clothes under her burka and her daughter's dress isn't black.


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15-05-2014, 09:27 AM
RE: Icky. Purity Ball and this on going virgin culture
(15-05-2014 09:22 AM)Anjele Wrote:  
(13-05-2014 01:13 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  It's a silly thing really. Didn't the whole debutant thing die out?

This just seems another extension. A way of informing young men that the girl is ready for marriage.

Because let's be clear on this, it's exactly what's happening.

Oh no...the debutante thing is alive and well in SC, at least it was when I was there. Each spring there would be pages and pages of pictures of debs in the Sunday papers. My guilty, mean girl pleasure was to go through picture by picture looking at these rich girls and deciding which ones lucked out by being rich cause they were sure lacking in the looks department. Especially evil was laughing when one sister was gorgeous and the other looked...well, much less than gorgeous.

There would be write ups of who their parents and grandparent are/were. Who their escort was and his family background. For me it was like an driving by an accident....I had to look.

The creepiest thing about the video in the OP for me are the prom date/wedding looking poses with father and daughter...made me throw up in my mouth a little.

Facepalm


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15-05-2014, 10:30 AM (This post was last modified: 15-05-2014 12:56 PM by Drunkin Druid.)
RE: Icky. Purity Ball and this on going virgin culture
(12-05-2014 02:36 PM)dancefortwo Wrote:  Don't know where to post this, there doesn't seem to be an Icky category on the forum but if there were this sure would qualify. For thousands of years and in most religions there has been a world wide virgin culture that has subjugated women by turning their virgin status into a commodity owned not by the women themselves but by their fathers, brothers and even their mothers. To me when this idiot idea ends women will finally be free. I detest the notion that someone else has power over another person's body in this manner and this father, daughter Purity Ball crap is sick, sick, sick. Just, like...yuck.

http://thegodlessplace.blogspot.com/2014...3EsKvldXXp

Again................yuck!
There are some pics of me holding my wife in the exact same way that those fathers are holding their daughters.
I'm holding my wife that way because I care deeply for her. But to be honest I'm mostly doing it because it feels good being close to her and I want to do nasty things with her. I'm not saying that these guys have the same things on their minds but I'm not saying they don't.
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15-05-2014, 10:44 AM
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Yes the idea of having to marry your dad so he can keep you pure till he can gift you to another man (like a fine ox) is pretty grotesque.
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15-05-2014, 11:35 AM
RE: Icky. Purity Ball and this on going virgin culture
(15-05-2014 10:44 AM)Hobbitgirl Wrote:  Yes the idea of having to marry your dad so he can keep you pure till he can gift you to another man (like a fine ox) is pretty grotesque.

Well there is a reason why woman are listed along with slaves, cattle, and all other chattel and property in the 10th Commandment...


You know, because gawd... Dodgy

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15-05-2014, 12:03 PM
RE: Icky. Purity Ball and this on going virgin culture
(15-05-2014 10:44 AM)Hobbitgirl Wrote:  Yes the idea of having to marry your dad so he can keep you pure till he can gift you to another man (like a fine ox) is pretty grotesque.


I wonder if it's just a specific religious group that does this crap? Or if it's like several types of churches, the Baptists or the JW's or another fundamentalists. I don't want to do a google search 'cause it kinda turns my stomach.

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15-05-2014, 01:05 PM
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Surely even among Christees these kinda photos would be uncomfortable viewing? It must be small more-batshit-insane-than-usual-and-creepy-as-fuck sect right... right?

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15-05-2014, 01:20 PM
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(15-05-2014 01:05 PM)morondog Wrote:  Surely even among Christees these kinda photos would be uncomfortable viewing? It must be small more-batshit-insane-than-usual-and-creepy-as-fuck sect right... right?

They are gaining popularity but are still well outside the norm.

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15-05-2014, 01:24 PM
RE: Icky. Purity Ball and this on going virgin culture
It makes me glad for my child that whatever it is, he or she, will never have to deal with this insanity in its childhood.
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