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30-08-2014, 07:09 PM
RE: If God were proven to exist...
(30-08-2014 07:03 PM)diddo97 Wrote:  God has been proven to exist.
1. Everything has a Beginning
2. Logic has a beginning
3. The beginning of logic cannot be logic itself, that is bad according to logic
4. Therefore, the beginning of logic must be God.

1. So how did God begin?
2. Ok
3. Beginning of God cannot be God nor could he exist before there was existence.
4. Therefore your argument is invalid

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30-08-2014, 07:11 PM
RE: If God were proven to exist...
(30-08-2014 07:09 PM)JDog554 Wrote:  
(30-08-2014 07:03 PM)diddo97 Wrote:  God has been proven to exist.
1. Everything has a Beginning
2. Logic has a beginning
3. The beginning of logic cannot be logic itself, that is bad according to logic
4. Therefore, the beginning of logic must be God.

1. So how did God begin?
2. Ok
3. Beginning of God cannot be God nor could he exist before there was existence.
4. Therefore your argument is invalid

1. God is the creator of everything. This does not apply to him.
3. God created existence.
4. Therefore, you believe in logic on faith.

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30-08-2014, 07:12 PM
RE: If God were proven to exist...
(30-08-2014 07:03 PM)diddo97 Wrote:  God has been proven to exist.
Oh this should be fun!! Hope it's something new that could convince me!!

Quote:1. Everything has a Beginning

Teach me to get my hopes up...

Prove it. This is an assertion. Does time have a beginning? Or is it eternal?
Quote:2. Logic has a beginning

Da fuq?

Logic is a tool. Like math. The idea of it having a beginning is silly. Perhaps I'm looking at this wrong but the idea seems kind of odd.

Quote:3. The beginning of logic cannot be logic itself, that is bad according to logic

I'm still lost on what you mean. Logic is a tool created in rational minds in order to explain a universe. Sometimes it doesn't work.

Quote:4. Therefore, the beginning of logic must be God.

Yeah, still lost. Logic is created by humans, just like math or science. It's just a tool, a name we give to help classify things. Why does god have to come into it?
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30-08-2014, 07:15 PM
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(30-08-2014 07:12 PM)natachan Wrote:  
(30-08-2014 07:03 PM)diddo97 Wrote:  God has been proven to exist.
Oh this should be fun!! Hope it's something new that could convince me!!

Quote:1. Everything has a Beginning

Teach me to get my hopes up...

Prove it. This is an assertion. Does time have a beginning? Or is it eternal?
Quote:2. Logic has a beginning

Da fuq?

Logic is a tool. Like math. The idea of it having a beginning is silly. Perhaps I'm looking at this wrong but the idea seems kind of odd.

Quote:3. The beginning of logic cannot be logic itself, that is bad according to logic

I'm still lost on what you mean. Logic is a tool created in rational minds in order to explain a universe. Sometimes it doesn't work.

Quote:4. Therefore, the beginning of logic must be God.

Yeah, still lost. Logic is created by humans, just like math or science. It's just a tool, a name we give to help classify things. Why does god have to come into it?

How do you account for knowledge? Without God, everything is absurd, because knowledge is absurd.

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30-08-2014, 07:18 PM
RE: If God were proven to exist...
(30-08-2014 07:11 PM)diddo97 Wrote:  
(30-08-2014 07:09 PM)JDog554 Wrote:  1. So how did God begin?
2. Ok
3. Beginning of God cannot be God nor could he exist before there was existence.
4. Therefore your argument is invalid

1. God is the creator of everything. This does not apply to him.
3. God created existence.
4. Therefore, you believe in logic on faith.

1. You just contradicted yourself, nice argument. You said everything has to have a beginning but now not everything does? Make up your damn mind. He had to come from somewhere he couldn't just always exist.

2. Something can't exist in non existence because it's non existence so God wouldn't exist before existence.

3. Therefore, your a dumbass and believe in fairy tales on faith and no evidence.

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30-08-2014, 07:19 PM
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Define knowledge. Do you mean the collected information in a mind? Do you mean the ability to process that information and integrate it? Because none of that requires a god.
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30-08-2014, 07:24 PM
RE: If God were proven to exist...
(30-08-2014 07:18 PM)JDog554 Wrote:  
(30-08-2014 07:11 PM)diddo97 Wrote:  1. God is the creator of everything. This does not apply to him.
3. God created existence.
4. Therefore, you believe in logic on faith.

1. You just contradicted yourself, nice argument. You said everything has to have a beginning but now not everything does? Make up your damn mind. He had to come from somewhere he couldn't just always exist.

2. Something can't exist in non existence because it's non existence so God wouldn't exist before existence.

3. Therefore, your a dumbass and believe in fairy tales on faith and no evidence.

1. I just explained why this is not a contradiction.
2. God can.
3. Ooh, an ad homenim. Ok, I'll play. Does absolute truth exist?

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30-08-2014, 07:25 PM
RE: If God were proven to exist...
(30-08-2014 07:19 PM)natachan Wrote:  Define knowledge. Do you mean the collected information in a mind? Do you mean the ability to process that information and integrate it? Because none of that requires a god.

It means that you can't be wrong.

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30-08-2014, 07:28 PM
RE: If God were proven to exist...
(30-08-2014 07:15 PM)diddo97 Wrote:  
(30-08-2014 07:12 PM)natachan Wrote:  Oh this should be fun!! Hope it's something new that could convince me!!


Teach me to get my hopes up...

Prove it. This is an assertion. Does time have a beginning? Or is it eternal?

Da fuq?

Logic is a tool. Like math. The idea of it having a beginning is silly. Perhaps I'm looking at this wrong but the idea seems kind of odd.


I'm still lost on what you mean. Logic is a tool created in rational minds in order to explain a universe. Sometimes it doesn't work.


Yeah, still lost. Logic is created by humans, just like math or science. It's just a tool, a name we give to help classify things. Why does god have to come into it?

How do you account for knowledge? Without God, everything is absurd, because knowledge is absurd.

Do you even know what the word knowledge even means?


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30-08-2014, 07:31 PM
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(30-08-2014 07:28 PM)Shadow Fox Wrote:  
(30-08-2014 07:15 PM)diddo97 Wrote:  How do you account for knowledge? Without God, everything is absurd, because knowledge is absurd.

Do you even know what the word knowledge even means?

It means that you can't be wrong

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