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21-03-2017, 07:35 AM
RE: If Jesus Was A Revolutionary...
(21-03-2017 07:22 AM)DLJ Wrote:  
(21-03-2017 07:00 AM)houseofcantor Wrote:  Translation: Me and DLJ have no life. Weeping

*DLJ and I Rolleyes

I'm sitting in a 5-star hotel room in Singapore transferring files I need for class tomorrow* onto my new laptop while eating perfect Hainanese Chicken rice** and waiting for my favourite concubine to arrive.

* My first paid work for 6 months.
** with Pandan and Ginger flavoured rice; local veg; Chicken soup; Chilli, Minced Scallion-ginger and Dark soy sauce.
Oh and tiramisu.
And my first solid food for 5 days.

Ahhh! The life of the pretty petty bourgeoisie ... not so bad.

What's your excuse, prophet-boy?

Tongue

Weeping

I don't get paid. I've got a five star living room, though, that ain't mine, which is even better. Leftovers, my hand in my pocket, my Gwynnies on my wall. But nah, I don't get paid.

Heart

Laugh out load

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21-03-2017, 05:12 PM
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(21-03-2017 07:11 AM)julep Wrote:  I have always thought of Jesus, if he existed at all, as a revolutionary. Like many revolutions, the one Jesus aimed to lead was a failure. I don't dispute the assertion that Christianity, like other successful religions, has proved to be an effective instrument of social control by adapting its doctrines and "facts" to the needs of the powerful.

What I don't understand is the point of the post. I don't give a fuck about whether Christianity's understanding of Jesus has been perverted, or diverted, from Jesus's original "message," because it's still all a load of bullshit.

And it seems to me that the point of this post is to try to sell me bullshit shit by grass-fed bulls instead of bullshit shit by grain-fed bulls, ignoring the fact that I'm not in the market for bullshit of any kind.
If you actually had watched the video, you might see that it is incredibly important for this particular (profound)leader to address Christianity in the Black communities because they are heavily oppressed by Christianity in a way particular to them. The Black preachers help "keep them down", etc.
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21-03-2017, 05:32 PM
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(21-03-2017 05:12 PM)Fred Hampton Wrote:  
(21-03-2017 07:11 AM)julep Wrote:  I have always thought of Jesus, if he existed at all, as a revolutionary. Like many revolutions, the one Jesus aimed to lead was a failure. I don't dispute the assertion that Christianity, like other successful religions, has proved to be an effective instrument of social control by adapting its doctrines and "facts" to the needs of the powerful.

What I don't understand is the point of the post. I don't give a fuck about whether Christianity's understanding of Jesus has been perverted, or diverted, from Jesus's original "message," because it's still all a load of bullshit.

And it seems to me that the point of this post is to try to sell me bullshit shit by grass-fed bulls instead of bullshit shit by grain-fed bulls, ignoring the fact that I'm not in the market for bullshit of any kind.
If you actually had watched the video, you might see that it is incredibly important for this particular (profound)leader to address Christianity in the Black communities because they are heavily oppressed by Christianity in a way particular to them. The Black preachers help "keep them down", etc.

I'm not going to watch the video. I'll skim through a transcript or read an article or summary, where I can get more signal and less noise. However, I appreciate your clarifying what you find valuable in it. If you don't want to answer the following question, that's okay, we won't continue the conversation: is he opposing Christianity in general or is he a Christian trying to get people to agree that they should follow his kind of Christianity instead?

If this person is advocating for his audience to switch from oppressive bullshit to empowering bullshit, I'm still not interested. And I'm suspicious (with every leader) about exactly how much of the empowering is going to make its way into the leader's pockets.
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21-03-2017, 07:15 PM (This post was last modified: 21-03-2017 07:34 PM by Fred Hampton.)
RE: If Jesus Was A Revolutionary...
(21-03-2017 05:32 PM)julep Wrote:  
(21-03-2017 05:12 PM)Fred Hampton Wrote:  If you actually had watched the video, you might see that it is incredibly important for this particular (profound)leader to address Christianity in the Black communities because they are heavily oppressed by Christianity in a way particular to them. The Black preachers help "keep them down", etc.

I'm not going to watch the video. I'll skim through a transcript or read an article or summary, where I can get more signal and less noise. However, I appreciate your clarifying what you find valuable in it. If you don't want to answer the following question, that's okay, we won't continue the conversation: is he opposing Christianity in general or is he a Christian trying to get people to agree that they should follow his kind of Christianity instead?

If this person is advocating for his audience to switch from oppressive bullshit to empowering bullshit, I'm still not interested. And I'm suspicious (with every leader) about exactly how much of the empowering is going to make its way into the leader's pockets.
He's an anti-capitalist/imperialist/colonialist. He is a socialist-communist atheist(says next to his name) global leader based in FL(African Peoples Socialist Party). He is straight out of the American Black soc-comm tradition of SNCC(Stokely Carmichael), Malcolm X, and The Black Panthers.

Yes, he opposes Christianity(and all religions) as a tool of oppression, especially against Blacks/Africans. He advocates revolutionary Marxist socialism/communism led by people of African heritage, with willing white-- or any other--people as allies: globally. Influenced by Marcus Garvey. They have a branch org called, "The African Peoples Solidarity Committee", which is white people allies. He/they advocate for reparations for all African heritage people as a whole for the damage done through slavery around the world.

It's really a powerful film, too bad you will miss it. He a different kind of atheist than say, Dawk, Hitch, and Harris.
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21-03-2017, 07:39 PM
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(21-03-2017 07:15 AM)houseofcantor Wrote:  
(21-03-2017 06:57 AM)Fred Hampton Wrote:  Constantine coopted the Christian movement, hence Christianity became the religion of the oppressor rather than the oppressed.

I don't get any kind of minority involvement in Christianity. It's not about what it was but rather what it is, and what it is es no bueno.
Christianity, like most religions, is a tool, very powerful tool, of the oppressor classes, and they make a shit ton of loot at it.

Of course now there is a very lucrative atheist circuit too, for some. What really gets me is the guys who made a killing touring for Jesus, quit that, and are now making killing touring for the No-Jesus. Cant these people just get a real job? Next, there will be an atheist music industry.
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21-03-2017, 07:42 PM
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(21-03-2017 07:11 AM)houseofcantor Wrote:  
(21-03-2017 06:58 AM)Fred Hampton Wrote:  Lotsa trolls bombarding this thread, too bad, maybe they might learn something.

Pro tip: This forum is full of trolls. Most of us are regulars. Evil_monster

Don't want to be trolled, be clear and concise and use your own damn words. Wink

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21-03-2017, 07:48 PM
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First he bosses the admin then he insults the prophet. No

I am looking into my Magic 8 Ball and you having a future here is highly unlikely.

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21-03-2017, 07:49 PM
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What the fuck is Fing?


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And without so much as a mere touch, cut me into little pieces

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21-03-2017, 07:50 PM
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(21-03-2017 07:49 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  What the fuck is Fing?

Guess for you it would be ding.

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21-03-2017, 07:52 PM
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(21-03-2017 07:50 PM)Anjele Wrote:  
(21-03-2017 07:49 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  What the fuck is Fing?

Guess for you it would be ding.

Like my car?

Omg I haz the confuzzled.


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