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13-03-2014, 08:01 PM
RE: If god did in fact exist, would you submit?
(13-03-2014 07:52 PM)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:  
(13-03-2014 09:51 AM)shimmyjimmy Wrote:  Just a fun thread idea.


That post displayed my misunderstanding of the definition of atheism. I changed my position.


This had nothing to do with claiming the existence of Jesus.


I don't see the problem?


That was me simply questioning atheist argumentation.







I referenced Harries, the fact that he was debating Craig was irrelevant.

Keep wriggling, Mr. "Burning in hell".

Too afraid to admit that you were wrong and acted like an ass, Taq?

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13-03-2014, 08:04 PM
RE: If god did in fact exist, would you submit?
(10-03-2014 01:36 AM)Free Thought Wrote:  
(10-03-2014 01:26 AM)shimmyjimmy Wrote:  In a debate with William Lane Craig, Sam Harris said that if God did exist, and religious scripture was true, then he would want to do anything he could to secure his place in heaven.

Do you agree with him?

I don't think someone like Christopher Hitchens would agree, as he was a passionate anti-theist that seemed to not want to go down without a fight.

So I guess what I'm asking is if God did exist and scripture was true, whether or not you would submit.

I'd like to think that I am a far more honourable and disciplined human being than to betray my principles and try to grovel at the feet of what would be without a doubt the greatest mass of evil in all possible existence, just to be spared the evidence of its evil.

I'd like to think that of myself, too Shy
But I also find it completely likely that if I were given just a taste of the torture I was guaranteed to never see an end to after making the "wrong" choice... I'd prolly make the "right" one Undecided

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13-03-2014, 08:20 PM
RE: If god did in fact exist, would you submit?
(13-03-2014 08:01 PM)Revenant77x Wrote:  
(13-03-2014 07:52 PM)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:  Keep wriggling, Mr. "Burning in hell".

Too afraid to admit that you were wrong and acted like an ass, Taq?

You are wrong on all three counts.

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13-03-2014, 08:50 PM
RE: If god did in fact exist, would you submit?
(13-03-2014 08:20 PM)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:  
(13-03-2014 08:01 PM)Revenant77x Wrote:  Too afraid to admit that you were wrong and acted like an ass, Taq?

You are wrong on all three counts.

No you acted like an ass regardless of whether you were wrong or not.

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13-03-2014, 08:54 PM
RE: If god did in fact exist, would you submit?
(13-03-2014 08:50 PM)Revenant77x Wrote:  
(13-03-2014 08:20 PM)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:  You are wrong on all three counts.

No you acted like an ass regardless of whether you were wrong or not.

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13-03-2014, 10:04 PM
RE: If god did in fact exist, would you submit?
(13-03-2014 07:52 PM)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:  
(13-03-2014 09:51 AM)shimmyjimmy Wrote:  Just a fun thread idea.


That post displayed my misunderstanding of the definition of atheism. I changed my position.


This had nothing to do with claiming the existence of Jesus.


I don't see the problem?


That was me simply questioning atheist argumentation.







I referenced Harries, the fact that he was debating Craig was irrelevant.

Keep wriggling, Mr. "Burning in hell".

Shimmy just recently deconverted. We support people at all stages of their deconversion. Stop being a dick. People need to ask questions.


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13-03-2014, 10:05 PM
RE: If god did in fact exist, would you submit?
(13-03-2014 08:54 PM)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:  
(13-03-2014 08:50 PM)Revenant77x Wrote:  No you acted like an ass regardless of whether you were wrong or not.

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Yeah that is pretty much all you have done the entire time you have been here.

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13-03-2014, 10:17 PM
RE: If god did in fact exist, would you submit?
He might not expect us to "submit." The whole idea that a god expects such things is a man made invention because that's how man (think royalty etc) wishes to be treated.

If a god exists, maybe he's just chill. Big Grin

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13-03-2014, 10:20 PM
RE: If god did in fact exist, would you submit?
(13-03-2014 10:17 PM)Deidre32 Wrote:  He might not expect us to "submit." The whole idea that a god expects such things is a man made invention because that's how man (think royalty etc) wishes to be treated.

If a god exists, maybe he's just chill. Big Grin

Yabut, man was made in his image. So I'm pretty sure if he exists he's every bit as much of a prick as we can be. Actually it seems like him and Taq would get along pretty good.

But now I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had an underlying truth.

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13-03-2014, 10:29 PM
RE: If god did in fact exist, would you submit?
(13-03-2014 10:20 PM)evenheathen Wrote:  
(13-03-2014 10:17 PM)Deidre32 Wrote:  He might not expect us to "submit." The whole idea that a god expects such things is a man made invention because that's how man (think royalty etc) wishes to be treated.

If a god exists, maybe he's just chill. Big Grin

Yabut, man was made in his image. So I'm pretty sure if he exists he's every bit as much of a prick as we can be. Actually it seems like him and Taq would get along pretty good.

True, but the way religion rolls, it would seem man created "God" in his image. Irony/10

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