If it was real... part 1
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28-05-2014, 01:53 PM
RE: If it was real... part 1
I don't get what this thread is about...

This stuff is entirely fictional, and its not like the authors of Genesis actually sat down and thought about the logic of any of it.

So trying to find naturalistic explanations for the stuff written in the Bible is pointless, when it was written by people who simply assumed magic was real and used it to create all sorts of ludicrous ideas.

Like Joshua commanding the sun to stand still... There is no way it would be physically possible without magic.

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28-05-2014, 01:56 PM
RE: If it was real... part 1
I'm gonna skip waaaaay past that silly Garden of Eden fairytale and go directly to the Moses story.

So what really happened is this: Moses was being paid minimum wage for all the work he was doing around Egypt, you know getting all the plans together for the Pharoh's buildings and such, when he and a few other workers, 55 day laborers and their wives and children which totaled 160, went looking for work in other places. While out in the desert Moses, not having any sunscreen nor head covering, got badly sunburned and started seeing mirages and multiple crowds of the original 160 people, burning bushes, voices and all kinds of desert nuttyness. Several centuries later St Jerome mistranslated the word "keren" which means "radiate" (most likely describing the sunburn Moses had) into the word "horn" instead. Another few centuries later when Michelangelo went to chisel the marble statue of Moses he stuck some god damn horns on his head.

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28-05-2014, 02:03 PM
RE: If it was real... part 1
The literal interpretation of Adam/Eve is relatively a new concept that has found its was in Protestantism and Fundamentalism.

Look at the teachings of Augustine... he highly questioned the literal creation story.

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28-05-2014, 02:10 PM
RE: If it was real... part 1
(28-05-2014 01:53 PM)Sam Wrote:  I don't get what this thread is about...

This stuff is entirely fictional, and its not like the authors of Genesis actually sat down and thought about the logic of any of it.

So trying to find naturalistic explanations for the stuff written in the Bible is pointless, when it was written by people who simply assumed magic was real and used it to create all sorts of ludicrous ideas.

Like Joshua commanding the sun to stand still... There is no way it would be physically possible without magic.

It's just a tongue in cheek attempt to logically explain things
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28-05-2014, 04:28 PM
RE: If it was real... part 1
(28-05-2014 12:01 PM)TheStraightener Wrote:  Ok

So we will have to concede magic on that one. No way around it.

Next up let's look at the talking snake who spoke to Eve. Could all snakes talk at the time? Could only that specific snake talk? And if so how did he manage to form words with that mouth and tongue?

Satan posessing the snake would come under the magic category and should be avoided.

How would a lowly snake know about this tree and its poisonous chemicals when eve did not?

It was a serpent, not a snake.

The questions assume that these things actually happened. It's a book of myths.

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28-05-2014, 04:48 PM (This post was last modified: 28-05-2014 04:52 PM by Drunkin Druid.)
RE: If it was real... part 1
The naturalistic explaination for all these stories is shrooms.
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28-05-2014, 05:13 PM
RE: If it was real... part 1
(28-05-2014 11:35 AM)TheStraightener Wrote:  Did the Apple have a poisonous chemical in it that when ingested caused a chemical reaction in her to no longer be mortal?

But if that was the case how did affect the bodies of other living things who didn't ingest this Apple? Was achemical gas released instead and breathed in by all other living things causing them to no longer live forever?

Any theories on how this happened?

Epigenetics. Shouldda stuck to living off breath and sunlight. Like algae.

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28-05-2014, 05:15 PM
RE: If it was real... part 1
Even IF it was real, the tree of knowledge, bearing the forbidden fruit wasn't necessary, by any stretch of the imagination.

God was all-knowing, so he sure as hell didn't need it.
Adam and Eve were clearly told, that munching on said tree, would kill them, so yea, it would be safe to say, they didn't need it either. Rolleyes

Keep in mind, that god already knows the future. But, let's just say that he didn't glance in his crystal ball that day....

So, here's god who could plop this one-of-a-kind, "look but don't touch" tree of death, anywhere on earth, and where did he choose to put it?!?!

And the stupid ass tree, that caused so much trouble, was destroyed in the flood anyway, so what the hell was the point?? Facepalm Consider

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28-05-2014, 05:25 PM
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It would be more... Promethian(?) and probably more interesting if Adam and Eve remained immortal but had to watch their billions of offspring grow old and die for eternity.

Hmm, sounds a bit like an Anne Rice plot.

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28-05-2014, 05:43 PM
RE: If it was real... part 1
(28-05-2014 02:03 PM)kingschosen Wrote:  The literal interpretation of Adam/Eve is relatively a new concept that has found its was in Protestantism and Fundamentalism.

Look at the teachings of Augustine... he highly questioned the literal creation story.

Yeah, I remember hearing bakker talking about that. Consider

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