If there was actual evidence that we were the product of intelligent design
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10-06-2015, 04:18 PM
If there was actual evidence that we were the product of intelligent design
(10-06-2015 03:55 PM)Tomasia Wrote:  
(09-06-2015 12:55 PM)pablo Wrote:  Actual evidence of intelligent design would involve producing an intelligent designer.
Produce that and I'll mull it over.

No, it doesn't. You can infer design without knowing anything about the designer. Just like you don't need to know who or what robbed you, to infer your house has been robbed.

Yes, you'll need to actually show a designer is plausible in order to conclude that what you think is intelligently designed is indeed evidence. Otherwise you're unable to distinguish between something that is intelligently designed and something that emulates what you think is intelligent design.

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10-06-2015, 04:19 PM
If there was actual evidence that we were the product of intelligent design
Unless you're not actually here to understand what is being told to you and are really just here preaching your own opinion as a religious agenda, tomasia?

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10-06-2015, 05:27 PM
RE: If there was actual evidence that we were the product of intelligent design
(10-06-2015 03:55 PM)Tomasia Wrote:  
(09-06-2015 12:55 PM)pablo Wrote:  Actual evidence of intelligent design would involve producing an intelligent designer.
Produce that and I'll mull it over.

No, it doesn't. You can infer design without knowing anything about the designer. Just like you don't need to know who or what robbed you, to infer your house has been robbed.

No, it's not just like that. We know that burglars exist. Drinking Beverage

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10-06-2015, 05:31 PM
If there was actual evidence that we were the product of intelligent design
In order to conclude that a mechanism is responsible for your evidence, you need to prove the mechanism is real and logically connects to your evidence.

If I observe a trend in CO2 concentrations that is coincident with temperature increase and I conclude that they are causally linked such that CO2 increase leads to temperature increase, I have to show a mechanistic link between CO2 and temperature. Such as it being a greenhouse gas through its ability to absorb infrared radiation.

Once again, this is pretty straightforward, tomasia. Unless you're not really here to discuss or to understand and are just here to preach your religious opinion?

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10-06-2015, 05:47 PM
RE: If there was actual evidence that we were the product of intelligent design
(10-06-2015 05:27 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(10-06-2015 03:55 PM)Tomasia Wrote:  No, it doesn't. You can infer design without knowing anything about the designer. Just like you don't need to know who or what robbed you, to infer your house has been robbed.

No, it's not just like that. We know that burglars exist. Drinking Beverage
How do you know? I have never seen one.

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10-06-2015, 05:56 PM
If there was actual evidence that we were the product of intelligent design
(10-06-2015 05:47 PM)tomilay Wrote:  
(10-06-2015 05:27 PM)Chas Wrote:  No, it's not just like that. We know that burglars exist. Drinking Beverage
How do you know? I have never seen one.

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10-06-2015, 05:58 PM
RE: If there was actual evidence that we were the product of intelligent design
(10-06-2015 05:56 PM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  
(10-06-2015 05:47 PM)tomilay Wrote:  How do you know? I have never seen one.

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What does that make you?

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10-06-2015, 05:58 PM
If there was actual evidence that we were the product of intelligent design
(10-06-2015 05:58 PM)tomilay Wrote:  
(10-06-2015 05:56 PM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  0_0

Sometimes you just aren't prepared for really stupid replies....
What does that make you?

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10-06-2015, 05:59 PM
RE: If there was actual evidence that we were the product of intelligent design
(10-06-2015 05:58 PM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  
(10-06-2015 05:58 PM)tomilay Wrote:  What does that make you?

Smarter than you Drinking Beverage
You are thicker than I thought. How is that even possible?

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10-06-2015, 06:00 PM
If there was actual evidence that we were the product of intelligent design
(10-06-2015 05:59 PM)tomilay Wrote:  
(10-06-2015 05:58 PM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  Smarter than you Drinking Beverage
You are thicker than I thought. How is that even possible?

Because you're not very bright, or your comprehension abilities are atrocious.

Or both.

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