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05-11-2014, 12:39 PM
RE: If you believe Alexander the Great existed, then why not Jesus?
(05-11-2014 12:34 PM)WeAreTheCosmos Wrote:  Hey guys, remember the time Jesus' blood sugar was low and he got pissed at that out-of-season fig tree, then stormed into the courtyard market place and flipped ALL the tables? "FUCK YO TABLES!"..And someone was like "Jesus Christ, calm down.. Here eat this fruit..." But he slapped it down and kicked over the man's fruit stand, then chased an whipped a bunch of people...

Good ol' Jesus... that guy was hilarious. What ever happened to him?

Yeah, I remember him. Good question. He probably changed his name to Alexander.

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05-11-2014, 12:39 PM
RE: If you believe Alexander the Great existed, then why not Jesus?
(05-11-2014 12:36 PM)Stevil Wrote:  Alexander is much more plausible than Jesus.

Alexander is part of the evolutionary tree having both a father and mother. and he does not have magical powers.

Jesus gets lumped into the category of other things that have magical powers e.g. Fairies, leprachauns, witches, wizards, harry potter, jedi knights, merlin, the tooth fairy, Jesus, YHWH, Zeus, Athena, Thor, Ororo, unicorns etc.

Would you say that Alexander is more plausible than these mythical magical creatures?

I guess you don't believe Mohammed and Buddha lived... or Confucius? Smile

So youre rejecting THOUSANDS of ancient documents for Christ... and accepting the miniscule written documentation for Alexander... You ARE allowed to be intellectually dishonest, no problem Smile
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05-11-2014, 12:40 PM
RE: If you believe Alexander the Great existed, then why not Jesus?
(05-11-2014 12:39 PM)Impulse Wrote:  
(05-11-2014 12:34 PM)WeAreTheCosmos Wrote:  Hey guys, remember the time Jesus' blood sugar was low and he got pissed at that out-of-season fig tree, then stormed into the courtyard market place and flipped ALL the tables? "FUCK YO TABLES!"..And someone was like "Jesus Christ, calm down.. Here eat this fruit..." But he slapped it down and kicked over the man's fruit stand, then chased an whipped a bunch of people...

Good ol' Jesus... that guy was hilarious. What ever happened to him?

Yeah, I remember him. Good question. He probably changed his name to Alexander.

He is here whipping ass on Atheists right here in this thread Tongue
...and in 2 one on one debates Tongue

He hasnt gone anywhere Smile
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05-11-2014, 12:41 PM
RE: If you believe Alexander the Great existed, then why not Jesus?
(05-11-2014 11:56 AM)devilsadvoc8 Wrote:  if we did a wordcloud on wolfbitn's posts I wonder what word would be the most prominent? What could we learn from his posting style?

I'm voting for "Iv" -- except that's not even a word.
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05-11-2014, 12:46 PM
RE: If you believe Alexander the Great existed, then why not Jesus?
(05-11-2014 12:39 PM)Wolfbitn Wrote:  
(05-11-2014 12:36 PM)Stevil Wrote:  Alexander is much more plausible than Jesus.

Alexander is part of the evolutionary tree having both a father and mother. and he does not have magical powers.

Jesus gets lumped into the category of other things that have magical powers e.g. Fairies, leprachauns, witches, wizards, harry potter, jedi knights, merlin, the tooth fairy, Jesus, YHWH, Zeus, Athena, Thor, Ororo, unicorns etc.

Would you say that Alexander is more plausible than these mythical magical creatures?

I guess you don't believe Mohammed and Buddha lived... or Confucius? Smile

So youre rejecting THOUSANDS of ancient documents for Christ... and accepting the miniscule written documentation for Alexander... You ARE allowed to be intellectually dishonest, no problem Smile

Once again,you have not shown that there are thousands of ancient documents for Christ. Will you? Yes or No.
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05-11-2014, 12:51 PM
RE: If you believe Alexander the Great existed, then why not Jesus?
(05-11-2014 12:34 PM)WeAreTheCosmos Wrote:  Hey guys, remember the time Jesus' blood sugar was low and he got pissed at that out-of-season fig tree, then stormed into the courtyard market place and flipped ALL the tables? "FUCK YO TABLES!"..And someone was like "Jesus Christ, calm down.. Here eat this fruit..." But he slapped it down and kicked over the man's fruit stand, then chased an whipped a bunch of people...

Good ol' Jesus... that guy was hilarious. What ever happened to him?

They he had a snickers bar... he became dull and boring from that point on.

Wolfjob seems massively delusional to not understand he can't read. I'm not sure if he thinks more sources of English and European sources using the phrase Rome ruled the world means that it's a world wide phrase, or that I've denied it's even a used phrase at all, but he sure isn't connecting to something right.

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05-11-2014, 12:58 PM
RE: If you believe Alexander the Great existed, then why not Jesus?
(05-11-2014 12:46 PM)Rik Wrote:  
(05-11-2014 12:39 PM)Wolfbitn Wrote:  I guess you don't believe Mohammed and Buddha lived... or Confucius? Smile

So youre rejecting THOUSANDS of ancient documents for Christ... and accepting the miniscule written documentation for Alexander... You ARE allowed to be intellectually dishonest, no problem Smile

Once again,you have not shown that there are thousands of ancient documents for Christ. Will you? Yes or No.

http://www.worldinvisible.com/apologet/bible.htm

Quote:But how many such manuscripts exist between 125 and 1100 A.D.? As we saw before, the more ancient manuscripts you have, the surer you are of detecting any errors made by copyists. Are there eight as with Suetonius or 10 as with Aristophanes or even 20 as with Livy? There are 4,000 Greek manuscripts of the Bible in existence and 8,000 Latin manuscripts dated between 125 and 1100 A.D..


So that's over 12,000 manuscripts in the amount of time it took us to get 3 for Alexander the great Smile

If you have a problem reading that paragraph, you can click here and look at pictures :

https://www.google.com/search?q=new+test...d=0CDMQ7Ak
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05-11-2014, 01:18 PM
RE: If you believe Alexander the Great existed, then why not Jesus?
Oh clueless and delusional one, you really need to attend some theology classes, truly.

No one who wrote of jesus knew him, NO ONE...not one. A thinking person would assume if someone was doing such amazing things, someone at the time would have documented it.....corpses bursting out of their graves and walking around town in the world's first and last zombie invasion?....nope, not a mention...odd, the world going dark from 3-6pm upon his death....nope. Not one of the multiple thriving civilizations in the world at the time bothered to note the very weird world going dark mid-day...not one.

The gospels were not written by whom you think, or by whom you think...that isn't opinion, that is fact. DO some research, take a few classes, read some books..heck use google.

Like the flood fairy tale

Egyptian civilization is probably familiar to most of us. Egypt’s dynastic history started with the uniting of Upper and Lower Egypt by King Menes, around 3100 BCE. The Egyptian period known as the “Old Kingdom” lasted from 2800 to 2175 BCE. During this time many of the pyramids were built. There is no record, written or archaeological, for a monster flood destroying and completely interrupting this countries infrastructure or it’s monuments such as the Sphinx, the Step Pyramid, or the Great Pyramids, which were built before ‘The Flood’. Neither were they wiped out.

China has a reasonably accurate history starting around 3000 BCE. According to texts from a Chinese book called “Shu King” and verified by archaeological records, China was undergoing a prosperous period around 2400 to 2200 BCE during the early Yaou Dynasty. They have no record of a cataclysmic flood interrupting their whole civilization and destroying the infrastructure of the country. Neither were they wiped out.

The Indus valley civilization has a well-known history dating back to perhaps 3100 BCE. By 2500 BCE there were two major cities, Mohendaro (or Mohenjo-Daro) and Harrapa, which rivaled Egypt and Mesopotamia in population and technologies. This great Civilization also encompassed maybe 100 smaller cities, towns, and villages, and didn’t fall until about 1500 BCE. They have no record of a worldwide civilization-destroying flood. Neither were they wiped out.

The Minoan civilization was probably as old as Egypt. Based on the Island of Crete, this civilization grew quickly and was highly advanced by 2500 BCE. By the middle of the second millennium it had an alphabet, used bronze tools, had pottery, textiles, advanced architecture, and had established cities around the Islands. It continued to grow and was a center for trade and culture until about the mid-1400′s BCE when it was suddenly destroyed by the violent eruption of the Thera volcano. There has been no evidence unearthed from this civilization that shows a flood destroying their whole infrastructure, at any time in their existence. Neither were they wiped out.

The global flood story requires that only eight people were left alive in 2349 BCE. This does not allow enough time for humans to repopulate the earth. In 2000 BCE only 350 years after the flood the population of the world was 27 million. To go from a population of eight to a population of 27 million in 350 years is impossible.

You see wolfy, you are so wrapped around the axle in your OEC view, that you are missing the HUGE irrefutable facts that debunk the biblical stories...perhaps if you want to learn more about your faith, and ask nicely, I may educate you some more.

Perhaps if you had entered the forums seeking intellectual and intelligent discourse rather then bursting in like a 5 yo on his third tantrum of the day, you may have learned a few things, and been able to offer your opinions as well....sadly, you chose otherwise.

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05-11-2014, 01:19 PM
RE: If you believe Alexander the Great existed, then why not Jesus?
(05-11-2014 12:58 PM)Wolfbitn Wrote:  
(05-11-2014 12:46 PM)Rik Wrote:  Once again,you have not shown that there are thousands of ancient documents for Christ. Will you? Yes or No.

http://www.worldinvisible.com/apologet/bible.htm

Quote:But how many such manuscripts exist between 125 and 1100 A.D.? As we saw before, the more ancient manuscripts you have, the surer you are of detecting any errors made by copyists. Are there eight as with Suetonius or 10 as with Aristophanes or even 20 as with Livy? There are 4,000 Greek manuscripts of the Bible in existence and 8,000 Latin manuscripts dated between 125 and 1100 A.D..


So that's over 12,000 manuscripts in the amount of time it took us to get 3 for Alexander the great Smile

If you have a problem reading that paragraph, you can click here and look at pictures :

https://www.google.com/search?q=new+test...d=0CDMQ7Ak

12,000 copies or versions of the same fake fairy tale does not a fact make. The fairy tale is child's play to dismantle, truly, I do it daily.

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"The Christian community continues to exist because the conclusions of the critical study of the Bible are largely withheld from them." -Hans Conzelmann (1915-1989)
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05-11-2014, 01:25 PM
RE: If you believe Alexander the Great existed, then why not Jesus?
(05-11-2014 12:58 PM)Wolfbitn Wrote:  So that's over 12,000 manuscripts in the amount of time it took us to get 3 for Alexander the great Smile

How many copies of Harry Potter do we have within two decades of the event? Is Harry Potter more real than Jesus?
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