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07-11-2014, 10:09 AM
RE: If you believe Alexander the Great existed, then why not Jesus?
Oh we have a new user called JesusIsGod browsing this thread and they have not made any posts yet ...
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07-11-2014, 10:19 AM
RE: If you believe Alexander the Great existed, then why not Jesus?
(07-11-2014 10:09 AM)Mathilda Wrote:  Oh we have a new user called JesusIsGod browsing this thread and they have not made any posts yet ...

Aw, you chased it away. Sadcryface And it held such promise........

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07-11-2014, 10:37 AM
RE: If you believe Alexander the Great existed, then why not Jesus?
(07-11-2014 10:19 AM)Thinkerbelle Wrote:  
(07-11-2014 10:09 AM)Mathilda Wrote:  Oh we have a new user called JesusIsGod browsing this thread and they have not made any posts yet ...

Aw, you chased it away. Sadcryface And it held such promise........

Sorry, but it's like hearing the first cuckoo in spring. It does look like I have scared them away. They had only just joined and after I made the post they went off-line again. I just wanted to be able to refer back to a post in case it was Wolfbitn with another sock puppet account.
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07-11-2014, 10:39 AM
RE: If you believe Alexander the Great existed, then why not Jesus?
(07-11-2014 07:19 AM)WhatWasIThinking Wrote:  Since someone posted to all the friends of Wolfbitn...

Do you foolish, paranoid, rude assholes have any clue to how laughable you look? To how you ARE?
Yes.. I'm aware you don't care, but you are not slighting anyone but yourselves.
There are more people than you realize outside your shallow little world here, that have laughed and just shook their heads at how quickly the crumbs of a life with no meaning... oops,I mean a athiest, can be brought to nothing with truth. Truth is a powerful thing... for those that care about it anyway. For those that don't... they can only turn to distractions.

I came here trying to get away from the truth, boy did I choose the right place... lol And a faithful God was watching.I won't defend myself, as my evidence of this is far above you all. I will take the hard road, I'm not a coward or quitter, and things only serve to make my faith stronger.

So.. carry on in your empty days. And thanks to Wolfbitn, and you jokers, for the hand back to my foundation.

And if you all want to charge me with being Wolfbitn, even tho you've been told the truth, please do. It's a charge I welcome Smile)

Honestly I personally don't care if you are a sock puppet or not. I can ignore that you make the exact same types of spelling mistakes as him. The same grammatical errors. The same exact wording of the same exact questions. I can also ignore that your avatars are very similar, you make the exact same unproven claims about what our unregistered guests think. That you use capitalization of words in the exact same way as him, and that you make extremely similar insults and passive aggressive comments, and that your evidence for your belief is the exact same and wrong in the exact same way.

I'm honestly willing to admit that it is theoretically possible that two people with the exact same lack of skill in writing English, with the exact same lack of wit, with similar tastes in avatar, who are interested in the exact same question at the exact same time and both unable to consider any evidence then what they need to maintain their argument and who just happened to coincidentally join the forum days apart, just so happen to be different people. It's even somehow possible that you could join the forum with the intent of asking us about Jesus/Alexander a full DAY before that was actually brought up on the forum by Wolfbitn.

I'm willing to suspend my disbelief for one simple reason: that's not the big issue here. The big issue is that if you can read through this thread, read wolfbitn mindlessly attacking everyone in it, providing no evidence of his claims, deliberately misrepresenting what evidence he DOES try to provide, and subsequently categorically ignore dozens of well written criticisms of his stance by multiple people filled with ACTUALLY facts and evidence...well then son you need to drink down a loaded shotgun cause you are bringing the fucking worlds average down.
If you are stupid enough to find Wolfbitn's "argument" convincing then you were beyond our help in the first place. We can convince a person like you, and we don't want to.
You are welcome to address the 70+ pages of critiques of his position that he repeatedly ignored. Or you could come in here making the same grammatical errors declare everyone is laughing at us and offer no actually evidence or argument for your claims....just like the guy you are swearing up and down you are not.Drinking Beverage

Honestly though kid, if your just gonna sit there and tell us people are laughing at us that's not gonna make us feel bad. We don't feel bad when people who are wrong laugh at us, cause they are wrong. The wise are seldom bothered by the opinions of fools, and fools you have shown yourselves both to be.

TL;DR: If you found Wolfbitn or his case compelling that you are an idiot, and we are not sad to see you go nor will we put any stock in your opinion. You may leave now.

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07-11-2014, 10:46 AM
RE: If you believe Alexander the Great existed, then why not Jesus?
(07-11-2014 10:39 AM)WhiskeyDebates Wrote:  
(07-11-2014 07:19 AM)WhatWasIThinking Wrote:  Since someone posted to all the friends of Wolfbitn...

Do you foolish, paranoid, rude assholes have any clue to how laughable you look? To how you ARE?
Yes.. I'm aware you don't care, but you are not slighting anyone but yourselves.
There are more people than you realize outside your shallow little world here, that have laughed and just shook their heads at how quickly the crumbs of a life with no meaning... oops,I mean a athiest, can be brought to nothing with truth. Truth is a powerful thing... for those that care about it anyway. For those that don't... they can only turn to distractions.

I came here trying to get away from the truth, boy did I choose the right place... lol And a faithful God was watching.I won't defend myself, as my evidence of this is far above you all. I will take the hard road, I'm not a coward or quitter, and things only serve to make my faith stronger.

So.. carry on in your empty days. And thanks to Wolfbitn, and you jokers, for the hand back to my foundation.

And if you all want to charge me with being Wolfbitn, even tho you've been told the truth, please do. It's a charge I welcome Smile)

Honestly I personally don't care if you are a sock puppet or not. I can ignore that you make the exact same types of spelling mistakes as him. The same grammatical errors. The same exact wording of the same exact questions. I can also ignore that your avatars are very similar, you make the exact same unproven claims about what our unregistered guests think. That you use capitalization of words in the exact same way as him, and that you make extremely similar insults and passive aggressive comments, and that your evidence for your belief is the exact same and wrong in the exact same way.

I'm honestly willing to admit that it is theoretically possible that two people with the exact same lack of skill in writing English, with the exact same lack of wit, with similar tastes in avatar, who are interested in the exact same question at the exact same time and both unable to consider any evidence then what they need to maintain their argument and who just happened to coincidentally join the forum days apart, just so happen to be different people. It's even somehow possible that you could join the forum with the intent of asking us about Jesus/Alexander a full DAY before that was actually brought up on the forum by Wolfbitn.

I'm willing to suspend my disbelief for one simple reason: that's not the big issue here. The big issue is that if you can read through this thread, read wolfbitn mindlessly attacking everyone in it, providing no evidence of his claims, deliberately misrepresenting what evidence he DOES try to provide, and subsequently categorically ignore dozens of well written criticisms of his stance by multiple people filled with ACTUALLY facts and evidence...well then son you need to drink down a loaded shotgun cause you are bringing the fucking worlds average down.
If you are stupid enough to find Wolfbitn's "argument" convincing then you were beyond our help in the first place. We can convince a person like you, and we don't want to.
You are welcome to address the 70+ pages of critiques of his position that he repeatedly ignored. Or you could come in here making the same grammatical errors declare everyone is laughing at us and offer no actually evidence or argument for your claims....just like the guy you are swearing up and down you are not.Drinking Beverage

Honestly though kid, if your just gonna sit there and tell us people are laughing at us that's not gonna make us feel bad. We don't feel bad when people who are wrong laugh at us, cause they are wrong. The wise are seldom bothered by the opinions of fools, and fools you have shown yourselves both to be.

TL;DR: If you found Wolfbitn or his case compelling that you are an idiot, and we are not sad to see you go nor will we put any stock in your opinion. You may leave now.


Wow...thats probably THE best written analysis of a troll I've read here to date.
Simply epic in thoroughness and observations!

I'd give you more rep points if I could!!!!!

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07-11-2014, 11:20 AM
RE: If you believe Alexander the Great existed, then why not Jesus?
(07-11-2014 09:51 AM)Impulse Wrote:  
(06-11-2014 03:55 PM)goodwithoutgod Wrote:  The point our little misguided troll keeps missing is, it doesn't mater what someone wrote down 60-150 years later based on myth and stories. No one AT THE TIME wrote them down, and that is called the ERA OF SILENCE. If a man was doing these miraculous works, it would have been recorded. ZERO exists, Xtian or contemporary..

So when we consider that during times of miraculous events, no one AT THE TIME thought they were significant enough to even write down, it kind of of makes a thinking person contemplate the validity of a story told and written down based on myth and hearsay 60-150 years later..For example;

Matthew 27:45 Now from the sixth hour there was darkness over all the land unto the ninth hour.

Mark 15:33 And when the sixth hour was come, there was darkness over the whole land until the ninth hour.

Luke 23:44-48 And it was about the sixth hour, and there was a darkness over all the earth until the ninth hour.

Unfortunately, there is not one shred of evidence that this happened...zero, all of the royal scribes, historians, philosophers, and literate people who wrote down and recorded EVERYTHING of any significance, failed to note the whole earth going dark mid-day for three hours...an eclipse lasts about 7.5 mins max, so it wasn’t that....nothing, .....zero. Never happened.

Another example:

Matthew 27:51-53
King James Version (KJV)
51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;
52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,
53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.

Again…no one thought a zombie invasion was worthy of writing down…seems rather odd.

Because it NEVER happpened. Only children believe in fairy tales, jesus is wolfy's santa claus Laugh out load

I realize Wolfie has been banned and this thread is now dead, but for the benefit of anyone else paying attention, I want to add one thing. All the copies upon copies that Wolfie himself brought up and linked do show one thing - that people found the New Testament to be an important document. That doesn't mean it actually WAS an important document, but certainly that they thought so. And, when they thought something was important, they therefore wrote it down and spread it around.

So this adds emphasis to GWG's point that no one wrote anything down about the miracles. I mean surely if someone really saw a man walking on water, feeding thousands with a few loaves of bread, making blind people see, and - oh yeah - rising from the dead, SOMEONE would have written these things down WHEN THEY HAPPENED. People would have been foaming at the mouth to tell others about the incredible sights they had seen. But.. nothing.

Exactly Yes

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07-11-2014, 11:34 AM
RE: If you believe Alexander the Great existed, then why not Jesus?
(07-11-2014 11:20 AM)goodwithoutgod Wrote:  
(07-11-2014 09:51 AM)Impulse Wrote:  I realize Wolfie has been banned and this thread is now dead, but for the benefit of anyone else paying attention, I want to add one thing. All the copies upon copies that Wolfie himself brought up and linked do show one thing - that people found the New Testament to be an important document. That doesn't mean it actually WAS an important document, but certainly that they thought so. And, when they thought something was important, they therefore wrote it down and spread it around.

So this adds emphasis to GWG's point that no one wrote anything down about the miracles. I mean surely if someone really saw a man walking on water, feeding thousands with a few loaves of bread, making blind people see, and - oh yeah - rising from the dead, SOMEONE would have written these things down WHEN THEY HAPPENED. People would have been foaming at the mouth to tell others about the incredible sights they had seen. But.. nothing.

Exactly Yes

Yes and no. Traveling-wandering Apocalyptic preacher/miracle workers were a-dime-a-dozen at that point in history.




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07-11-2014, 11:51 AM
RE: If you believe Alexander the Great existed, then why not Jesus?
(07-11-2014 11:34 AM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  Yes and no. Traveling-wandering Apocalyptic preacher/miracle workers were a-dime-a-dozen at that point in history.

True, but of course, none of them were really performing miracles. Now, if someone had been really performing miracles, many people surely would have written about it.

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07-11-2014, 12:23 PM
RE: If you believe Alexander the Great existed, then why not Jesus?
(07-11-2014 11:51 AM)Impulse Wrote:  
(07-11-2014 11:34 AM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  Yes and no. Traveling-wandering Apocalyptic preacher/miracle workers were a-dime-a-dozen at that point in history.

True, but of course, none of them were really performing miracles. Now, if someone had been really performing miracles, many people surely would have written about it.

It was an "age of magic" and spirits. That's how the "miracle-workers" got away with people thinking they were "special". It's almost impossible to imagine the level of general ignorance at a time when the literacy rate was 5% or less.

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07-11-2014, 12:31 PM
RE: If you believe Alexander the Great existed, then why not Jesus?
(04-11-2014 04:42 PM)Wolfbitn Wrote:  
(04-11-2014 03:59 PM)cjlr Wrote:  Which church?

There are thousands.


You previously claimed a date of 50 CE for the earliest possible authorship of the earliest Christian writings.

Those of us who have mastered subtraction would see that 50 - 33 > 10. I guess that doesn't include you?


Moron Jesus is believed to have been born between 4-6 AD

METH-ILDA... youre not intellectually honest enough to even speak lol IF someone accepted i'll be there Wink

CJ ...HISTORY teaches us the church exited in the mid 1st century IN Israel.

(07-11-2014 12:23 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  
(07-11-2014 11:51 AM)Impulse Wrote:  True, but of course, none of them were really performing miracles. Now, if someone had been really performing miracles, many people surely would have written about it.

It was an "age of magic" and spirits. That's how the "miracle-workers" got away with people thinking they were "special". It's almost impossible to imagine the level of general ignorance at a time when the literacy rate was 5% or less.

The magicians today could just hop in a time machine and be gods there, or is it then?

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