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27-03-2015, 06:09 PM
If you had a tardis...
Let's say you had a TARDIS (why a TARDIS? Because it translates, as I don't speak ancient Greek, Aramaic, and my Latin is rusty) and you could go back and confirm for 100% certainty what happened at the beginning of Christianity. A few things came to mind you might find.

1) Jesus never existed. No one knows what the fuck you're talking about and has no clue about this person.

2) Jesus did exist, but he was a con man (think Joseph Smith).

3) Jesus did exist, but he was a crazy man. Like the weird guy on the subway who wears underpants on his head and screams about the aliens.

4) Jesus did exist, but you wait outside the tomb after the resurrection and the body never leaves. It just rots.

5) Every word is true. You see him walk on water, turn water into wine, and after watching the tomb for three days you see him walk out of it (after you check that he was dead going in of course).

Now the question, do you tell? Do you tell people about Jesus? For most this would end Christianity and upend their whole world. So is it right to tell them? Is it kind to tell them? Or is it kinder to let them live with a delusion? Even option 5 isn't good, because then they don't have "faith" anymore (although I just included it to be fair to theists, I don't think it's likely).
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27-03-2015, 06:19 PM (This post was last modified: 27-03-2015 07:50 PM by GirlyMan.)
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6) Jesus did exist and he walked around saying "Dude, don't be a dick. Why you being such a dick? The fuck's wrong with you? Quit being a dick or I'm gonna beat the dick out of you." And he would be mortified that he has been deified. That's completely missing the point of The Word.

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27-03-2015, 07:36 PM
If you had a tardis...
I would knock Jesus out with a club to the head and take him back to the future to show him off. I would keep him in a cage and make him produce wine, bread, and fish.
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27-03-2015, 08:40 PM
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(27-03-2015 06:09 PM)natachan Wrote:  Let's say you had a TARDIS (why a TARDIS? Because it translates, as I don't speak ancient Greek, Aramaic, and my Latin is rusty) and you could go back and confirm for 100% certainty what happened at the beginning of Christianity. A few things came to mind you might find.

1) Jesus never existed. No one knows what the fuck you're talking about and has no clue about this person.

2) Jesus did exist, but he was a con man (think Joseph Smith).

3) Jesus did exist, but he was a crazy man. Like the weird guy on the subway who wears underpants on his head and screams about the aliens.

4) Jesus did exist, but you wait outside the tomb after the resurrection and the body never leaves. It just rots.

5) Every word is true. You see him walk on water, turn water into wine, and after watching the tomb for three days you see him walk out of it (after you check that he was dead going in of course).

Now the question, do you tell? Do you tell people about Jesus? For most this would end Christianity and upend their whole world. So is it right to tell them? Is it kind to tell them? Or is it kinder to let them live with a delusion? Even option 5 isn't good, because then they don't have "faith" anymore (although I just included it to be fair to theists, I don't think it's likely).

Christians wouldn't believe a word you say, it wouldn't change anything, you could go around saying he existed and was everything the bible claims while knowing he was just a schmuck that couldn't pour piss out of a boot. You could sell a lot of books and get fame in Christian circles, in fact, that's kind of what goes on now.

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27-03-2015, 08:59 PM
RE: If you had a tardis...
I'd Tardis in the morning,
I'd Tardis in the evening,
All over this land...
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27-03-2015, 10:09 PM
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If I had a Tardis, I wouldn't waste it on jesus! Big Grin much cooler things to explore Yes
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27-03-2015, 10:19 PM
RE: If you had a tardis...
It doesn't matter what I tell anyone. No one would believe me anyway.

Thing is, even if Jesus "came back" or you brought the human being the jesus myth was based on if that person ever even existed in the first place.

No one would ever believe you.


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27-03-2015, 10:38 PM
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Of course, I would be needing a camera...for proof and all.

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28-03-2015, 02:19 AM
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(27-03-2015 10:38 PM)Anjele Wrote:  Of course, I would be needing a camera...for proof and all.

Actors, stage, script.


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28-03-2015, 02:57 AM
RE: If you had a tardis...
The main problem here is that time travel is ridiculous.
The secondary problem, as had been mentioned, truth has no place in religion.
The tertiary problem is that I'd get stuck in Rome, swindling myself the iron ring of a senator, acquiring a country estate full of nubile young slave girls. Big Grin

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