Illiberal Left Shuts Down Free Speech with Violence (Again)
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02-02-2017, 09:34 AM (This post was last modified: 02-02-2017 11:11 AM by Dark Light.)
Illiberal Left Shuts Down Free Speech with Violence (Again)
I know I am a political island on this forum (as evidenced by my recent rating decline followed by my temporary? Exodus). However, surely those of you who prefer the labels of Progressive, Socialist, Communist, and so on do not condone the actions of Black-Bloc recently, do you? That's a genuine question, not a rhetorical one, just in case it's not clear.

I know there have been a lot of my peers who like those politicals brands who are thrilled with 'Punching Nazis', and shutting down Milo. Is this acceptable, uploadable, or deplorable?

For those of you unfamiliar with the stories I am referencing:

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/02/01/us/mil...-berkeley/

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/20/politi...r-punched/

edit: Corrected misspelling in title of thread

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02-02-2017, 09:43 AM
RE: Illiberal Left Shuts Down Free Speech with Violence (Again)
Milo can fuck right off. Piece of fucking human garbage that he is.
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02-02-2017, 09:47 AM
RE: Illiberal Left Shuts Down Free Speech with Violence (Again)
(02-02-2017 09:43 AM)kineo Wrote:  Milo can fuck right off. Piece of fucking human garbage that he is.

I have no problem you you thinking he is a piece of shit. The question was whether you not you find it appropriate, palatable, or disgusting to use violence to inhibit his right to speak freely.

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02-02-2017, 09:50 AM
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Looting and burning shit is uncool, IMO. But you poke a bear long enough and he is going to lash out. They are entitled to their free speech, but don't spew straight up hate and expect people to just sit and take it, either.

"If you don't have a seat at the table, you're probably on the menu."

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02-02-2017, 09:50 AM
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In case you didn't notice, the vast majority, the sea of protesters were not wearing hoods and dark clothes, and were protesting peacefully. That turd could have spoken there just fine. A few chickenshits with hoods and their own clubs and other tools of violence took advantage of the situation. Since they cover their identities we have no idea who they are. They could very well be paid to tear shit up by ultra-conservative groups.
The police only arrested one person there, and that just emboldens the pricks. Expect more of this.
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02-02-2017, 09:51 AM
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I understand the violent reactions to people like Milo and Spencer. I don't condone it. It's not an acceptable reaction in our nation. But I get it. These two examples of people are the same people that incite violence against others every day. Milo uses his troll army to harass others via social media, and it easily leads to physical harm of the target. Milo has done very real damage to peoples' lives. He skirts the blame because he doesn't commit violence himself. Instead, his followers do the work of harassing and shaming and attacking, Milo just calls out the targets. Angry
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02-02-2017, 09:53 AM
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Also, to add, Milo and his ilk should not be exempt from their speech. But those that provide the platform ought to bear the weight of the pain he causes people when he speaks. Protests and boycotts are my preferred course of action. I think violence gives people like you an out from thinking critically about what these people have to say, so you can blame the entire left for their actions.
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02-02-2017, 09:57 AM
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Sorry... and people should care about what either of those two gentle man say... because, why? Consider

No, really? What are their actual qualification?

I've got LOTS of opinions... but actual knowledge about stuff? Not so much.
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02-02-2017, 09:58 AM
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(02-02-2017 09:50 AM)ShadowProject Wrote:  Looting and burning shit is uncool, IMO. But you poke a bear long enough and he is going to lash out. They are entitled to their free speech, but don't spew straight up hate and expect people to just sit and take it, either.

What do you mean by 'sit and take it'? By that, do you mean violence is justified if you say something offensive? For example, I would argue that I have the right to tell a Muslim that Mohamud was a paedophile, even though that is something most any Muslim would find extremely offensive. In return, I would say it is perfectly reasonable for that Muslim to call me an inbred, sister-fucking meth head, and to do so is certainly not 'sitting and taking it', but at the same time I would say it is not acceptable for the Muslim to punch me, or even threaten violence. So I ask again, what's your position?

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02-02-2017, 10:00 AM
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(02-02-2017 09:53 AM)kineo Wrote:  Also, to add, Milo and his ilk should not be exempt from their speech. But those that provide the platform ought to bear the weight of the pain he causes people when he speaks. Protests and boycotts are my preferred course of action. I think violence gives people like you an out from thinking critically about what these people have to say, so you can blame the entire left for their actions.

Who are 'people like me'? Why do you assume I have not or cannot employ critical thinking skills?

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