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12-03-2011, 01:41 PM
RE: Illuminati
"Build bridges, not walls"

That's your signature. By saying, "I lost, you guys are right. I'm wrong." when you don't really think that is putting up a wall. It's passive aggressive, and that way of approaching things will not serve you well in life.

If you don't want to discuss it further, then that's fair enough. But my advice to you is; don't admit defeat when you don't believe you've been defeated. I don't think you are looking at the facts, and approaching this with a critical mind. Neither does anyone else who's taken part in this thread. But that doesn't mean you should just shrug your shoulders, and say you've been defeated. I'd like nothing more than to see you weigh the opinions provided here and elsewhere with an open mind, and either change your thinking or debate what you think now with sound reasoning. It's hard to change your mind. It's easy to say you have.

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12-03-2011, 01:49 PM
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Yeah, watch the steel melting point video, and thanks, google the melting point of steel, same thing... Just that it really makes sense, of the 2 hour clips showing all the evidence.


"Build bridges, not walls"
What I originally mean by this is that, people shouldn't isolate each other, we should all be able to communicated with each other. I was probably admitting defeat because I have been down rated and accused of not being logical, and was spreading lies.

I actually know that 9/11 was an inside job, I don't admit defeat anymore, it was just a nice lie for you guys so we could of end this discussion because I didn't felt like losing more reputation, and not being trustworthy D:

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12-03-2011, 01:49 PM
RE: Illuminati
Please don't use videos, unless they cite their sources. From your text I can see that you haven't searched for refuting articles. Use the baloney detection kit, 'cause nobody's gonna do it for you.
Quote:I didn't meant you were harsh, It was for kikko.
Although I hadn't replied to the thread yet?

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12-03-2011, 01:54 PM
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"If you would have just joined, I'd suspect you of trolling. I'm not touching illuminati, too paranoid." Kikko you wrote this D:

they do cite their sources, they have demolition experts on 9/11, They have multiple clips, different experts, various sources, and texts.

The steel beam were cut at an angle, isn't that really suspicious ?

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12-03-2011, 02:55 PM (This post was last modified: 12-03-2011 03:00 PM by Kikko.)
RE: Illuminati
Quote:"If you would have just joined, I'd suspect you of trolling. I'm not touching illuminati, too paranoid." Kikko you wrote this D:
After you had written this: ''that was biased and harsh D:''.
Quote:they do cite their sources, they have demolition experts on 9/11, They have multiple clips, different experts, various sources, and texts.
Actually, they have nothing about where I can find them. She mentioned some 'femil report', but I have no idea how it's written and where to find it. ''- Demolition Expert'' is not a source citement, it doesn't even tell the name.
Why would the conspirators care to what direction the building's gonna collapse?
How to cut metal sideways and vertically with thermite?
Which is more probable, 1. they had a miracle device that cuts thick steel with thermite sideways and vertically or 2. the cuts were made after the collapse for some reason or 3. something else caused it.
In the brainiac part of the video, they needed a big flower pot of thermite to make a small hole to a car. Think of the amount of thermite needed for scyscraper pillars.
And, a similar video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhHzMttUK...ded#at=164
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Are they saying that steel bends in gas pressure, but not in the pressure caused by a collapsing skyscraper?

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12-03-2011, 03:15 PM
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(12-03-2011 01:48 AM)Laxion Wrote:  Also Illuminati is not removing the videos, because then there would be a hidden society. Called Reverse Psychology.

Oh come on! If they were removing the videos you would be all over that saying they are suppressing the truth! The illuminati exists!...This is unfalsifiable to you, why should you believe it?

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12-03-2011, 03:21 PM
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Hm... no what I mean is like, if they did, wouldn't it be suspicious to do that ? not very clever of them to do that.

I don't know, but the symbols are used so much in the movies and the music industry using these phrase " The new world order" "Illuminati" "ella ella eh "
" rain man"
Seems very suspicious. skip to the middle of the video, to see all those various music artists using it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DikoLMfnE...ideo_title

I'm not making a claim, I'm just being suspicious about it... I don't want to force you to believe it, after all everyone finds truth from themselves.

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12-03-2011, 03:28 PM
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This reminds me of a friend who was going on about how the number 23 popped up everywhere. He's an atheist so he didn't think it was a sign of a god or anything, and he really didn't know what to make of it. I kept telling him that it was confirmation bias and I even counted up my and his birth dates, and they didn't equal 23, but he still wouldn't change his mind...

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12-03-2011, 03:53 PM
RE: Illuminati
(12-03-2011 03:21 PM)Laxion Wrote:  Hm... no what I mean is like, if they did, wouldn't it be suspicious to do that ? not very clever of them to do that.

I don't know, but the symbols are used so much in the movies and the music industry using these phrase " The new world order" "Illuminati" "ella ella eh "
" rain man"
Seems very suspicious. skip to the middle of the video, to see all those various music artists using it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DikoLMfnE...ideo_title

I'm not making a claim, I'm just being suspicious about it... I don't want to force you to believe it, after all everyone finds truth from themselves.

I suggest you watch this video by Michael Shermer:

http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/michae...ption.html

http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/michae...hings.html

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12-03-2011, 04:02 PM
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Thanks, sosa, I will be sure to check it out, I have been watching some illuminati videos, There is so much reference, symbolism toward the same thing, like the music industry all points something going to happen.

the thing I hate about it, it's kinda religious about talking about the devil taking control of your life. I think they meant the elite controlling them or else they will make bad things happen to them or something.

It talks about conscious a lot, which science doesn't know about yet. Our basic to that is psychology.

Really interesting stuff about Illuminati and how they are behind everything of this world. They should be gone once the R.B.E is in place. Zday not New world order.

Which will never happen, and wonder why bush,media, musics mentions about it. It's really suspicious.

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