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18-05-2011, 11:47 AM
RE: Immorality & Atheism
(18-05-2011 08:14 AM)Ghost Wrote:  Sorry guys. Check and mate.
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(18-05-2011 03:26 AM)The_observer Wrote:  Side-note 1:
My morality comes not from my standpoint as "not an in god believer" but from my humanistic point of view. In that sense the "atheism" layer of my identity is indeed not-moral.

In the same sense like my skills as a technician does not come from my dislike in soccer...

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18-05-2011, 12:00 PM
RE: Immorality & Atheism
(18-05-2011 08:14 AM)Ghost Wrote:  Atheists are immoral. Sorry guys.

If morality is absolute....

If

Sorry guys. Check and mate.

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Matt, not one of your better arguments. No worries, we all have off days. Sad

If-then statements are only plausible when the initial "if" is a generally accepted truth. Morality is not an absolute, therefore, your whole construct falls apart immediately after the premise...

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18-05-2011, 12:16 PM
RE: Immorality & Atheism
(18-05-2011 11:44 AM)GassyKitten Wrote:  I'll give Matt the benefit of the doubt in thinking he's not trolling, and instead see this as his playing the Devil's advocate as to how Theists would argue the point.
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18-05-2011, 12:21 PM
 
RE: Immorality & Atheism
"You're an atheist?!"

"Yup."

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18-05-2011, 12:25 PM
 
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18-05-2011, 12:30 PM
 
RE: Immorality & Atheism
Morals can still be learned through fairy tales and nursery rhymes.
I'm an atheist, and you don't see me stoning a guy to death for being an infidel.
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18-05-2011, 12:49 PM
 
RE: Immorality & Atheism
(18-05-2011 08:14 AM)Ghost Wrote:  Atheists are immoral. Sorry guys.

If morality is absolute, then you do not subscribe to the morality of scripture and are therefore immoral.

If moraity is culturally relative, then you do not subscribe to the morality of scripture and are, in terms of the people accusing you of immorality, immoral.

Atheists are not moral because Atheism makes no claims pertaining to morality, or anything else for that matter, therefore Atheists are immoral.

Atheists are not amoral because those claiming to be moral are not suggesting that there is no such thing as moral and immoral.

If you eliminate the impossible then whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truth. Because Atheists are not moral and because they're not amoral, then the only possiblity is that they are immoral.

Sorry guys. Check and mate.

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Your brand of logic reminds of this:

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18-05-2011, 12:54 PM
 
RE: Immorality & Atheism
(18-05-2011 12:16 PM)The_observer Wrote:  
(18-05-2011 11:44 AM)GassyKitten Wrote:  I'll give Matt the benefit of the doubt in thinking he's not trolling, and instead see this as his playing the Devil's advocate as to how Theists would argue the point.
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19-05-2011, 08:16 AM
RE: Immorality & Atheism
<Tap, tap, tap> Is this thing on? Jeez. Tough crowd. <Tugs collar awkwardly>

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19-05-2011, 12:59 PM
RE: Immorality & Atheism
(19-05-2011 08:16 AM)Ghost Wrote:  <Tap, tap, tap> Is this thing on? Jeez. Tough crowd. <Tugs collar awkwardly>

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Next time try a live studio audience and have them warmed up. A blinker "laugh" off-screen helps too. Big Grin

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