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04-03-2013, 07:15 AM
Immutable laws of science...
Tell me some
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04-03-2013, 07:19 AM
Immutable laws of science...
http://discovermagazine.com/2010/apr/10-...TSelfq9Kc0
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04-03-2013, 07:25 AM
RE: Immutable laws of science...
1. Be imaginative and come up with a whole bunch of ideas that can be proven false if they are wrong
2. Test them to see which ones to modify or discard
3. Modify or discard them.
4. Use whatever "provisionally true" ideas are left to feed the hungry and build space stations.

There you go!

Give me your argument in the form of a published paper, and then we can start to talk.
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05-03-2013, 03:27 PM
RE: Immutable laws of science...
This... is not new. Scientists have been debating this for years, and this article itself is almost 3 years old.

(04-03-2013 07:25 AM)Hafnof Wrote:  1. Be imaginative and come up with a whole bunch of ideas that can be proven false if they are wrong
2. Test them to see which ones to modify or discard
3. Modify or discard them.
4. Use whatever "provisionally true" ideas are left to feed the hungry and build space stations.

There you go!

Word, yo.

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05-03-2013, 06:15 PM (This post was last modified: 05-03-2013 06:18 PM by Phaedrus.)
RE: Immutable laws of science...
Laws of nature are not laws of science... Get your terminology straight.



Anyway, Discover is a pop sci rag, it cares more about punchy headlines than being really informative. It often runs what amount to editorial pieces as the headline article in the hopes that a headline like "Was Darwin Wrong?" will get them some quick cash.

If you want to read a science magazine, read Scientific American, which is actually a peer reviewed journal, but publishes in a format readable by a moderately educated layman.

E 2 = (mc 2)2 + (pc )2
614C → 714N + e + ̅νe
2 K(s) + 2 H2O(l) → 2 KOH(aq) + H2 (g) + 196 kJ/mol
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05-03-2013, 06:24 PM
RE: Immutable laws of science...
Scientific American: Are Physical Constants Really Constant?

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05-03-2013, 06:26 PM
RE: Immutable laws of science...
The physical constants are not the natural laws... And if that's what the Discover article was talking about it should have used the correct word.

E 2 = (mc 2)2 + (pc )2
614C → 714N + e + ̅νe
2 K(s) + 2 H2O(l) → 2 KOH(aq) + H2 (g) + 196 kJ/mol
It works, bitches.
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06-03-2013, 09:49 AM
RE: Immutable laws of science...
(04-03-2013 07:15 AM)I and I Wrote:  Tell me some
No. Go and fuckin' study Science on your own like everyone else did.
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06-03-2013, 03:54 PM
RE: Immutable laws of science...
Laws of science are not immutable (if for laws you mean theories), we do not even know if the laws of nature are immutable! Maybe the laws of nature we see are valid in our "little" visible universe and they are different elsewhere or maybe they change so slowly that we can't notice... or maybe there are indeed immutable laws of nature, nobody really knows, this is the hope and the "bet" of the scientists who tries to discover them.

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07-03-2013, 05:47 PM
Immutable laws of science...
Hasn't most eras of thought believed that they were close to scientific certainty? To me, the idea of non certainty and constant room for changing long held beliefs and being critical is what science is supposed to be. However most stances toward science are quite funny. On one side you have the haters of science and the other side is the group that believes science is close to certainty. Both stances are quite stupid.
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