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24-09-2014, 01:15 PM
In case you did not know....
The Obelisk in front of St Peter's Square was brought to Rome originally by Caligula from Egypt.

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24-09-2014, 01:33 PM
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One of the few ancient Egyptian obelisks which does not have any hieroglyphics, it was erected on the spine of the Circus Caligula, where many Christians were killed. It was the last thing St. Peter saw from his cross. While many other obelisks were destroyed, this one was spared because it was looked upon as a last remnant of the martyrdom of St Peter.
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24-09-2014, 02:38 PM
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Think about the symbolism of the cross being on top. The inscription talks about defeating evil, but in reality it really reflects our human nature as a species of wanting to be the alpha male. The cross being on top is nothing more than a gang symbol of dominance.

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24-09-2014, 03:27 PM
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(24-09-2014 02:38 PM)Brian37 Wrote:  Think about the symbolism of the cross being on top. The inscription talks about defeating evil, but in reality it really reflects our human nature as a species of wanting to be the alpha male. The cross being on top is nothing more than a gang symbol of dominance.

It's a bit more troubling when the obelisk in ancient Egypt is a representation of Geb's erect penis reaching towards to his sister/wife Nut the goddess of the sky. Putting a cross on the very top? well..guess you can draw your own conclusions on that.

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24-09-2014, 04:27 PM
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(24-09-2014 03:27 PM)grizzlysnake Wrote:  
(24-09-2014 02:38 PM)Brian37 Wrote:  Think about the symbolism of the cross being on top. The inscription talks about defeating evil, but in reality it really reflects our human nature as a species of wanting to be the alpha male. The cross being on top is nothing more than a gang symbol of dominance.

It's a bit more troubling when the obelisk in ancient Egypt is a representation of Geb's erect penis reaching towards to his sister/wife Nut the goddess of the sky. Putting a cross on the very top? well..guess you can draw your own conclusions on that.

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24-09-2014, 05:09 PM
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(24-09-2014 03:27 PM)grizzlysnake Wrote:  
(24-09-2014 02:38 PM)Brian37 Wrote:  Think about the symbolism of the cross being on top. The inscription talks about defeating evil, but in reality it really reflects our human nature as a species of wanting to be the alpha male. The cross being on top is nothing more than a gang symbol of dominance.

It's a bit more troubling when the obelisk in ancient Egypt is a representation of Geb's erect penis reaching towards to his sister/wife Nut the goddess of the sky. Putting a cross on the very top? well..guess you can draw your own conclusions on that.

A torture device on the end of a penis Consider ... Isn't that called a wife?

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24-09-2014, 05:13 PM
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(24-09-2014 05:09 PM)Revenant77x Wrote:  
(24-09-2014 03:27 PM)grizzlysnake Wrote:  It's a bit more troubling when the obelisk in ancient Egypt is a representation of Geb's erect penis reaching towards to his sister/wife Nut the goddess of the sky. Putting a cross on the very top? well..guess you can draw your own conclusions on that.

A torture device on the end of a penis Consider ... Isn't that called a wife?

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25-09-2014, 07:16 AM
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I've been told there is several obelisks around European countries that were taken out of Egypt over time. Nothing like a stiff structure to show off.

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25-09-2014, 09:51 AM (This post was last modified: 25-09-2014 09:55 AM by kim.)
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The ancient Egyptians didn't call them obelisks - obelisk comes from a Greek word meaning a roasting skewer - like "prong" - yea, I know. Dodgy
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The Egyptians called them tenjen which is associated with words like "protection" or "defense". Tenjen were usually erected very near temples or important houses or cities and were usually placed in pairs. The Egyptians had a lot of gods whose associations were intertwined not just with the forces of nature but also with whomever had the tenjen erected... "who's tenjen this is" was usually explained in the hieroglyphs carved on the sides and also explained how that person and this site would be protected by RA. (or Aten)

A tenjen is composed of two parts: the body and the pyramidon - the body is a long block of a conic trunk section and the pyramidon symbolizes the rays of the sun. Tenjen have inscriptions on all four sides as well, parts of the pyramidon might be carved and sometimes the pyramidon was plated in gold - "the flesh of the gods". Tenjen symbolize the stability and the creative force held by the solar god RA. The Egyptians believed that the solar rays brought a great vivifying power to everything, including the dead.

Many of the tenjen we are familiar with today originated from the granite quarries of Aswan - they were fully carved on the ground and then carted to their site and erected by means of pulley systems. The ancient Egyptians were exceptional engineers.

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