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07-09-2012, 06:24 PM
Infernal Life.
Many Christians, to some degree, hold the hope of eternal life , maintaining their present identity, with loved ones......forever and ever ad infinitum.

Change, or the evolving into higher and better forms of consciousness, as part of this process is not clearly mentioned, so one can only assume that eternal life is more of the same minus the trappings and interesting bits.

Orthodox Christianity holds that a human being, foetus to 100 years plus, will be judged on their merits for Hell or Heaven. How does Jesus judge the foetus, the mentally impaired, the baby born without a brain, those who fail to turn the other cheek to serve a better cause, along with many other issues.

Clearly the above scenario is absurd and where believers, of all faith positions look to an eventual world of peace, midst the stars, and fight and destroy the infidels to obtain such, we encounter one of many problems facing humanity.
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08-09-2012, 01:14 AM
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I don't know if this is what you're looking for but a lot of Christians believe that mentally ill people qualify as those who are like the remote tribes in the Amazon and stuff... If they didn't accept Jesus etc but they were never told about Jesus then they get a free pass whereas mentally ill people cannot comprehend the "word of God" and there for get a free pass. Hey, God did it to em anyway, right. :/

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08-09-2012, 01:26 AM
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(08-09-2012 01:14 AM)TheDoctorPhil Wrote:  I don't know if this is what you're looking for but a lot of Christians believe that mentally ill people qualify as those who are like the remote tribes in the Amazon and stuff... If they didn't accept Jesus etc but they were never told about Jesus then they get a free pass whereas mentally ill people cannot comprehend the "word of God" and there for get a free pass. Hey, God did it to em anyway, right. :/

Well I suppose God, or the less demanding (in terms of our moral requirements) vivifying force, did it to them.

As for god granting free passage for the remote tribes, mentally disabled etc, this surely negates any supposed sense of fairness on his part, within that very limited framework of thought.
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08-09-2012, 01:33 AM
RE: Infernal Life.
Absolutely... God isn't fair.
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08-09-2012, 01:38 AM
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That's the thing that gets to me about missionaries: If peoples who have not heard the message / word are blameless...

STOP FUCKING TELLING THEM!

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08-09-2012, 01:46 AM
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"but it's free will" they cry. "They can choose to accept or reject Jesus as their savior".

Boat load of hoopla.

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08-09-2012, 07:00 PM
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But, see, the mentally impaired and the aboriginals who have not had the benefit of missionaries don't get their free pass to the same heaven as the elders of some Arizona congregation. All they get to is an anteroom sort of thing where the blessed missionaries will complete their education.

It's not the mean god I have trouble with - it's the people who worship a mean god.
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08-09-2012, 11:40 PM
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(08-09-2012 07:00 PM)Peterkin Wrote:  But, see, the mentally impaired and the aboriginals who have not had the benefit of missionaries don't get their free pass to the same heaven as the elders of some Arizona congregation. All they get to is an anteroom sort of thing where the blessed missionaries will complete their education.

Oh! That's a relief. I was worried about them for a moment.

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10-09-2012, 04:34 AM
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(08-09-2012 01:46 AM)TheDoctorPhil Wrote:  "but it's free will" they cry. "They can choose to accept or reject Jesus as their savior".

Boat load of hoopla.

Reality-contradicting hoopla at that. ;D

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10-09-2012, 08:26 AM
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(08-09-2012 07:00 PM)Peterkin Wrote:  But, see, the mentally impaired and the aboriginals who have not had the benefit of missionaries don't get their free pass to the same heaven as the elders of some Arizona congregation. All they get to is an anteroom sort of thing where the blessed missionaries will complete their education.
Wait. So you're saying they actually go to hell?
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