Infinite vs Finite Logic
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06-06-2017, 03:05 PM
RE: Infinite vs Finite Logic
(03-06-2017 03:08 PM)SomethingWitty2 Wrote:  If it rhymes then it is true!

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07-06-2017, 12:22 AM
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(01-05-2017 04:26 PM)Saucy Jack Wrote:  because we don't know ...

Please ask your friend what part of "we dont know" he has problems with understanding. Is he seriously trying to argue "we dont know, therefore x"?
Please ask him how "infinite" or "green" or "smells like lavender" follows from "we dont know".

Because where i come from "we dont know" means: we.dont.fucking.know.dude!

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07-06-2017, 07:32 AM
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The question of infinite or finite is misleading at best when talking about the universe. The answer could be both. The universe is finite in the sense that at any given time, it has a finite size. But infinite in the sense that's it's expanding with no bounds and no reason to think it will stop growing.
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08-06-2017, 04:52 PM
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unlike stupidity, intelligence has limits.
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09-06-2017, 04:18 PM
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To put in my two cents. It's often how religious people often dismiss what they don't know. 'Gods Power is Infinite.' then putting into the spectrum the whole if God created a boulder that not he could lift that he isn't all powerful pardox.

Saying the universe is infinite is about the saying the same thing. Just because we don't know doesn't mean we should dismiss it and say it is 'Infinite'. But rather we take what we know now, make a judgement. And say we don't know as of now. I mean if people say Time is Finite, shouldn't the same be said for the universe.

If that makes any sense.

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11-06-2017, 08:58 AM
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The consensus is that the universe as we currently know it is 13.8 billion years old. The distance to the edge of the observable universe is 46 billion light years. Any speculation between the 46 billion light year mark and infinity, is not science.

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11-06-2017, 09:56 AM
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(11-06-2017 08:58 AM)VKTD Wrote:  The consensus is that the universe as we currently know it is 13.8 billion years old. The distance to the edge of the observable universe is 46 billion light years. Any speculation between the 46 billion light year mark and infinity, is not science.

Wouldn't the edge of the observable universe have to be less than 13.8 billion light years?
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12-06-2017, 03:18 AM
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(09-06-2017 04:18 PM)Ruby Crystal Wrote:  To put in my two cents. It's often how religious people often dismiss what they don't know. 'Gods Power is Infinite.' then putting into the spectrum the whole if God created a boulder that not he could lift that he isn't all powerful pardox.

Saying the universe is infinite is about the saying the same thing. Just because we don't know doesn't mean we should dismiss it and say it is 'Infinite'. But rather we take what we know now, make a judgement. And say we don't know as of now. I mean if people say Time is Finite, shouldn't the same be said for the universe.

If that makes any sense.

actually yeah. most of don't understand infinity. 10^1, 10^2? how about 10^100^1000?

Its used more like a "brain block so we don't lock'. just like the word 'god". sometimes.
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12-06-2017, 03:33 AM (This post was last modified: 12-06-2017 03:37 AM by EvolutionKills.)
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(11-06-2017 09:56 AM)Thoreauvian Wrote:  
(11-06-2017 08:58 AM)VKTD Wrote:  The consensus is that the universe as we currently know it is 13.8 billion years old. The distance to the edge of the observable universe is 46 billion light years. Any speculation between the 46 billion light year mark and infinity, is not science.

Wouldn't the edge of the observable universe have to be less than 13.8 billion light years?

Everything is expanding away from everything else, and has apparently been doing so for almost 14 billion years. Two objects moving in opposite directions from each other at close to the speed of light, would be almost 2 light years apart after one year.


The age of the universe is estimated to be 13.8 billion years. While it is commonly understood that nothing can accelerate to velocities equal to or greater than that of light, it is a common misconception that the radius of the observable universe must therefore amount to only 13.8 billion light-years. This reasoning would only make sense if the flat, static Minkowski spacetime conception under special relativity were correct. In the real universe, spacetime is curved in a way that corresponds to the expansion of space, as evidenced by Hubble's law. Distances obtained as the speed of light multiplied by a cosmological time interval have no direct physical significance

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observable...n_its_size

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12-06-2017, 03:36 AM
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(12-06-2017 03:33 AM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  
(11-06-2017 09:56 AM)Thoreauvian Wrote:  Wouldn't the edge of the observable universe have to be less than 13.8 billion light years?

Everything is expanding away from everything else, and has apparently been doing so for almost 14 billion years. Two objects moving in opposite directions from each other at close to the speed of light, would be almost 2 light years apart after one year.

not everything. Look up great attractor.

the question is the rip. nobody knows that yet.
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