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12-04-2014, 12:55 AM
RE: International English Language Standard?
(11-04-2014 09:43 AM)Revenant77x Wrote:  English is an outlier on that and has no such body. The closest we have is the Webster's Dictionary but even that is not Authoritative.

I see.

Communism
b : a totalitarian system of government in which a single authoritarian party controls state-owned means of production
c : a final stage of society in Marxist theory in which the state has withered away and economic goods are distributed equitably


Atheism
a : a disbelief in the existence of deity
b : the doctrine that there is no deity


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A dictionary with split personality disorder just won't do.
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12-04-2014, 01:04 AM
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I may just go with the Oxford Dictionary http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/defini...?q=atheism

atheism
Disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods.
late 16th century: from French athéisme, from Greek atheos, from a- 'without' + theos 'god'.


Simple, and accurate Dodgy
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12-04-2014, 01:47 AM
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(12-04-2014 01:04 AM)PoolBoyG Wrote:  I may just go with the Oxford Dictionary http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/defini...?q=atheism

atheism
Disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods.
late 16th century: from French athéisme, from Greek atheos, from a- 'without' + theos 'god'.


Simple, and accurate Dodgy

I'm English, The Oxford is the go to standard in the UK. Smile

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12-04-2014, 08:20 AM
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Admittedly, a living language evolves with new words and definitions. But I have a big problem with pandering to the ignorant. Words like irregardless, conversate, orientate, till (as an abbreviation of until) are just wrong. Ignorance should not dictate our language. It would seem that if enough people are wrong, then it becomes the new right. When will it end? Will commonly misspelled words be changed also?

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12-04-2014, 09:04 AM
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(12-04-2014 08:20 AM)Jeffasaurus Wrote:  Admittedly, a living language evolves with new words and definitions. But I have a big problem with pandering to the ignorant. Words like irregardless, conversate, orientate, till (as an abbreviation of until) are just wrong. Ignorance should not dictate our language. It would seem that if enough people are wrong, then it becomes the new right. When will it end? Will commonly misspelled words be changed also?

I used to use the word 'till'. What makes you say that it is wrong?

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/till

Quote:Origin of TILL
Middle English, from Old English til; akin to Old Norse til to, till, Old English til good
First Known Use: before 12th century


http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/until

Quote:Origin of UNTIL
Middle English, from un- (probably from Old Norse *und up to; akin to Old Norse unz up to, until, Old High German unt, Old English ende end) + til, till till
First Known Use: 13th century

Same goes for 'orientate' first used in 1848.
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12-04-2014, 09:08 AM
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We have really everything in common with America nowadays, except, of course, language. - Oscar Wilde, The Canterville Ghost (1887)

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12-04-2014, 09:16 AM
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(12-04-2014 09:04 AM)Mathilda Wrote:  
(12-04-2014 08:20 AM)Jeffasaurus Wrote:  Admittedly, a living language evolves with new words and definitions. But I have a big problem with pandering to the ignorant. Words like irregardless, conversate, orientate, till (as an abbreviation of until) are just wrong. Ignorance should not dictate our language. It would seem that if enough people are wrong, then it becomes the new right. When will it end? Will commonly misspelled words be changed also?

I used to use the word 'till'. What makes you say that it is wrong?

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/till

Quote:Origin of TILL
Middle English, from Old English til; akin to Old Norse til to, till, Old English til good
First Known Use: before 12th century


http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/until

Quote:Origin of UNTIL
Middle English, from un- (probably from Old Norse *und up to; akin to Old Norse unz up to, until, Old High German unt, Old English ende end) + til, till till
First Known Use: 13th century

Same goes for 'orientate' first used in 1848.

Well, 'til I see 'till' as the first definition, I will use 'til. Drinking Beverage

"orientate" was fucking illiterate in 1848 and it is fucking illiterate now. Angry

And so is "commentate". Drinking Beverage

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12-04-2014, 09:29 AM
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In Australian schools we have traditionally had the Macquarie dictionary.

Which is fucking stupid. Australian-specific spelling for words? What the actual?

Stupid stupid stupid. Just use the Oxford. The Queen's English is the one true English.

Give me your argument in the form of a published paper, and then we can start to talk.
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12-04-2014, 11:59 AM
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(12-04-2014 09:29 AM)Hafnof Wrote:  In Australian schools we have traditionally had the Macquarie dictionary.

Which is fucking stupid. Australian-specific spelling for words? What the actual?

Stupid stupid stupid. Just use the Oxford. The Queen's English is the one true English.

That'd be the 'Windsor' Queen, right? The one descended from a long line of...
Consider
...what were you saying about hafin ze new Euro standard?

But there are Oz-specific words and phrases that rock up occasionally. The OED would have to accommodate them.

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12-04-2014, 12:07 PM
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