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29-08-2017, 09:13 PM
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I search for a drum roll on the internet and this pops up.

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29-08-2017, 09:17 PM
RE: Interview with a ''gun nut''? Commentary Thread
(29-08-2017 09:13 PM)Banjo Wrote:  I search for a drum roll on the internet and this pops up.

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BlinkBlinkBlinkBlinkBlink

Might look into the search settings. Either that, or just enjoy the absurdity of the interwebs..

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29-08-2017, 09:22 PM
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I can't remember guys.

Do combatants usually comment in their boxing ring discussion commentary threads?

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30-08-2017, 12:07 AM (This post was last modified: 30-08-2017 12:13 AM by GirlyMan.)
RE: Interview with a ''gun nut''? Commentary Thread
(29-08-2017 06:36 PM)onlinebiker Wrote:  
(29-08-2017 06:31 PM)Banjo Wrote:  How about a thread on fishing rods and tackle. Those are tools for hunting.
They're tools for fishing....

If you try to land a 10 point buck with a deep sea fishing rig, with an ear of corn on a big treble hook, the Department of Fish and Game gets all sorts of excited..

Don't ask how I know..

I checked, and I'm pretty sure you just found a loophole in MD venison season.

If I'm landlocked and I happen to put out some corncob on the end of a giant deep-sea treble fishing hook in the middle of my tomato plants the deer keep eating, no reasonable jury would ever convict me if they wound up hooked.

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30-08-2017, 05:39 AM
RE: Interview with a ''gun nut''? Commentary Thread
(30-08-2017 12:07 AM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(29-08-2017 06:36 PM)onlinebiker Wrote:  They're tools for fishing....

If you try to land a 10 point buck with a deep sea fishing rig, with an ear of corn on a big treble hook, the Department of Fish and Game gets all sorts of excited..

Don't ask how I know..

I checked, and I'm pretty sure you just found a loophole in MD venison season.

If I'm landlocked and I happen to put out some corncob on the end of a giant deep-sea treble fishing hook in the middle of my tomato plants the deer keep eating, no reasonable jury would ever convict me if they wound up hooked.

Yup.. Get you one of those fighting chairs and a rod and reel for Marlin.

When you hook that 8 point, you" ll be in for the fight of your life..


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30-08-2017, 06:10 AM (This post was last modified: 30-08-2017 06:13 AM by BikerDude.)
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For me the salient issue is taking note of the fact that politically the issue of Guns is one of many "wedge issues".
This means that it can be used to cement a voting block.
If you can whip up enough of a fury over an issue it is then just a matter of selling whichever side has the largest constituent base a "solution".
It's cynical and never actually about the underlying belief. It's irrelevant. It's about manipulating the voters.
I never fail to be amazed how both sides just play along.
They just line up on either end of the spectrum like cattle and duke it out.
And then the NRA or the Televangelists just trot out the dog and pony show to the base and put them on a mission to "defeat the evil forces that are at work to take our lifestyle away" or whatever other blather they might spew.
And then it's too late. It's not about the issue it's about identity.

Sheep. Plain and simple.
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30-08-2017, 06:28 AM (This post was last modified: 30-08-2017 06:55 AM by BikerDude.)
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(29-08-2017 06:31 PM)Banjo Wrote:  From what I have witnessed, speaking with a US citizen who claims "It is my right" is like debating a religious fundamentalist. There may be a disconnect going on.

Would you say that about free speech?
Free speech is more important to you for one reason.
Because you don't own guns.

The thing that a lot of people who don't seem to like guns or view gun owners as nuts don't ever seem to get is how insulting some of their position seems to be to we who do.
Imagine yourself going into Walmart and buying a gun.
Are you going to shoot someone with it?
Why do you assume that you are better or more sane than others?
Are you going to "be a nut about it"? Devote yourself to guns?
Again how is this not supposed to sound like a very self centered and arrogant position?
This is why this stuff always turns into a mess. And why you get the impression that gun owners are gun nuts.
Because everything turns into vitriol and name calling and everyone gets defensive and on and on and on.
I've been accussed of being "obsessed with guns" and nothing could be further from the truth.
I haven't even touched any of my guns since last fall at the end of hunting season.
But I do have a position on it. It doesn't make me "obsessed".
There just seems to develop a dynamic that just makes a lot of people nuts on both sides of the issue and it inevitably turns to bile over a thing. A tool.
And in case nobody has noticed that more or less ends any possibility of sane dialog.
Just leave it the hell alone. Guns are legal.
All you are doing is making a willing audience for the propaganda that the NRA and alike send out to gun owners to organize and get behind candidates like Donald Trump.
Most people here don't like him so why would you do this? Are you really this fucking stupid?
99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of gun owners are just like you.
Well some of you. Not the anti gun nuts.
Like matter and anti matter on star trek.

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30-08-2017, 08:34 AM
RE: Interview with a ''gun nut''? Commentary Thread
Ahem.

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30-08-2017, 09:17 AM
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<<All you are doing is making a willing audience for the propaganda that the NRA and alike send out to gun owners to organize and get behind candidates like Donald Trump.>>

Well... In the end of our election process there are usually only two candidates. One of whom is most likely to support many restrictions and would prefer to remove firearms from the citizenry, if they could or is backed by people who would like to do so, such as, Sarah Brady and her ilk. She has been seeking a socialist nation for decades and knows that it can't happen as long as citizens own firearms.

The other is most likely to not be so in favor of gun regulations, gun banning, etc.

So for those who support this particular amendment in the Bill of Rights, there is little choice of whom to support, whether the NRA is behind the candidate or not. And..usually, these citizens support each of the amendments in the Bill of Rights, not just the second.

Not that any of us always have a well-defined choice between two excellent candidates, but if you have to choose between what is offered or use your vote to support a write-in candidate...well, what to do?

Propaganda is a part of life.

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30-08-2017, 09:43 AM
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(30-08-2017 09:17 AM)Jeanne Wrote:  <<All you are doing is making a willing audience for the propaganda that the NRA and alike send out to gun owners to organize and get behind candidates like Donald Trump.>>

Well... In the end of our election process there are usually only two candidates. One of whom is most likely to support many restrictions and would prefer to remove firearms from the citizenry, if they could or is backed by people who would like to do so, such as, Sarah Brady and her ilk. She has been seeking a socialist nation for decades and knows that it can't happen as long as citizens own firearms.

The other is most likely to not be so in favor of gun regulations, gun banning, etc.

So for those who support this particular amendment in the Bill of Rights, there is little choice of whom to support, whether the NRA is behind the candidate or not. And..usually, these citizens support each of the amendments in the Bill of Rights, not just the second.

Not that any of us always have a well-defined choice between two excellent candidates, but if you have to choose between what is offered or use your vote to support a write-in candidate...well, what to do?

Propaganda is a part of life.

Vote for whoever you like but why would anyone engage in name calling and announce that they want to take guns away from millions of people if they are hoping to actually win?
How bad of a chess player can people be?
And if you think that either candidate is actually going to enact any gun control you are delusional. It is a third rail in politics. Numbers are numbers.
The only thing it would result in is a temporary ban followed by a decade of decimation of a party to a place of total irrelevance.
The thing to do is find common ground. If not on this issue then on others.

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