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04-12-2014, 04:49 PM
Irish Bishops on the Meaning of Marriage
So we are getting a marriage equality referendum in spring 2015 in Ireland.

The bishops of Ireland have released this:
http://www.catholicbishops.ie/wp-content...nglish.pdf

here are my facebook comments:
So this is the equivalent of saying, "your bits match and in our opinion you can't have the same rights as people with opposite bits".
The short version is: don't take offense, but a same sex couple couldn't possibly raise a child.
Maybe a group of celibate men are not the best to give advice on this topic.

Thankfully the church in ireland does not have the hold on our population that it once had.
I thought this was particularly interesting:
That is why the Catholic Church clearly teaches that people
who are homosexual must always be treated with sensitivity,
compassion and respect. It is not lacking in sensitivity or
respect for people who are homosexual, however, to point
out that same sex relationships are fundamentally and
objectively different from opposite sex relationships and
that society values the complementary roles of mothers and
fathers in the generation and up-bringing of children.

thoughts?
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04-12-2014, 04:59 PM
RE: Irish Bishops on the Meaning of Marriage
The Catholics lost the last vestiges of any pretense at being able to discuss morality when they systematically protected child abusers.

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04-12-2014, 05:10 PM (This post was last modified: 04-12-2014 06:50 PM by Bucky Ball.)
RE: Irish Bishops on the Meaning of Marriage
(04-12-2014 04:49 PM)Eugryan Wrote:  So we are getting a marriage equality referendum in spring 2015 in Ireland.

The bishops of Ireland have released this:
http://www.catholicbishops.ie/wp-content...nglish.pdf

here are my facebook comments:
So this is the equivalent of saying, "your bits match and in our opinion you can't have the same rights as people with opposite bits".
The short version is: don't take offense, but a same sex couple couldn't possibly raise a child.
Maybe a group of celibate men are not the best to give advice on this topic.

Thankfully the church in ireland does not have the hold on our population that it once had.
I thought this was particularly interesting:
That is why the Catholic Church clearly teaches that people
who are homosexual must always be treated with sensitivity,
compassion and respect. It is not lacking in sensitivity or
respect for people who are homosexual, however, to point
out that same sex relationships are fundamentally and
objectively different from opposite sex relationships and
that society values the complementary roles of mothers and
fathers in the generation and up-bringing of children.

thoughts?

There is not one study that shows children are better off in opposite sex marriages than same-sex marriages. What there are however, are studies that show children are better off in two-parent households, instead of single parent households, which is the practical alternative. In the REAL world, the alternative is not an opposite sex home. It's a SINGLE parent home, (and the usual resultant poverty that puts the children in), or a loveless marriage with parents who hate their situation. In mammals sex has many purposes. Old men in purple dresses who know nothing about the subject can STFU.

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04-12-2014, 06:14 PM
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(04-12-2014 04:49 PM)Eugryan Wrote:  ...
Maybe a group of celibate men are not the best to give advice on this topic.
...

Only maybe?!? Big Grin

The linked brochure intrigues me from a marketing perspective.

Are there no black people in Ireland? Consider

And Asian families are too poor to buy furniture? Consider

It will be interesting to see the result of the referendum and how many are on either side of the progressive / conservative divide.

Thanks for info.

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05-12-2014, 02:22 PM
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I never understood that growing up. Ask the priest for marriage advice and counseling. By that logic, I am open for advice regarding lesbian Asian midgets.
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05-12-2014, 04:55 PM
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For the life of me I can't see Ireland voting to give all its citizens equal rights.
If there was a more religious western nation than 'Murica I would have thought it to be Ireland.
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05-12-2014, 05:19 PM
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(05-12-2014 04:55 PM)earmuffs Wrote:  For the life of me I can't see Ireland voting to give all its citizens equal rights.
If there was a more religious western nation than 'Murica I would have thought it to be Ireland.

The Catholic church is in serious decline over here in Ireland. The vote on gay marriage will be close, and the church will do all in it's power to get it's congregation to vote against. They've even managed to get a few catholic gays to call for a vote against Huh Most "Catholics" I know will vote yes, they don't give a fuck about bishops and priests.

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05-12-2014, 07:20 PM
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(05-12-2014 05:19 PM)Marozz Wrote:  
(05-12-2014 04:55 PM)earmuffs Wrote:  For the life of me I can't see Ireland voting to give all its citizens equal rights.
If there was a more religious western nation than 'Murica I would have thought it to be Ireland.

The Catholic church is in serious decline over here in Ireland. The vote on gay marriage will be close, and the church will do all in it's power to get it's congregation to vote against. They've even managed to get a few catholic gays to call for a vote against Huh Most "Catholics" I know will vote yes, they don't give a fuck about bishops and priests.

I suppose it's one of those things where anonymous ballets really pay off.
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05-12-2014, 07:28 PM
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I keep this handy for every time some catholic fuckhole mouths off about this stuff.


http://tinypic.com/m/igc0hw/4

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06-12-2014, 11:44 PM
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(05-12-2014 07:28 PM)Minimalist Wrote:  I keep this handy for every time some catholic fuckhole mouths off about this stuff.


http://tinypic.com/m/igc0hw/4

That was great. He's so right. More people should dare to be so blunt when it comes to religious bullshit.
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